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So are you saying the Democrats deserved to lose against Trump? Since at the time they were the ones allowing the genocide in Gaza?

And if you believe theres nothing more important than Gaza, investigating the Dems for recieving dark money makes perfect sense. Dark money would explain them completely ignoring the wishes and demands of their voting base. We know all politicians are comprimised by donors. But Democrats seem unusually compromised.:martin:

Have you ever watched an athlete play the game so unusually awful, That you start to suspect they might be illegally gambling on the game they are playing in? Or attempting to throw the game:respect:?
No. I was being sarcastic and hyperbolic to point out his hypocrisy
 

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I don't think that Newsom has earned the benefit of the doubt. I'm not interested in supporting a candidate that thinks it's politically expedient to valorize a racist to appeal to a bunch of othrt racists. There's a world of difference between "political violence has no place in our democracy or whatever" or "my thoughts are with his wife and children" and "Kirk is a great man whose work must be continued".

I think there are way too many people that are indifferent/unmoved to happy that a virulent racist got back what he put out into the world to attribute this to the radical left. People that have likely never voted are partying about it.


The "why don't you talk about Republicans" wasn't directed specifically at you, it's a sentiment shared throughout the various forums on this site. Here are a few quotes from this page that I saw right now though:






Maybe worth noting I'm not particularly moved by the dark money thing. Now if it came out that it was AIPAC or Shell Oil that would be different. Like I said previously I think the biggest issue is all these lib "influencers" aren't really doing much influencing. But maybe their goal is to just stem the tide, but I don't know if any of them have admitted to receiving the money.
I’d argue they are influencing or else Taylor wouldn’t be writing an article about them in the first place (plus some of them like BTC have a million plus followers).

There has to be a counter to all the right wing violence inciting influencing that is going on. You can complain that some people you don’t like are offering a left leaning counter or you can make your own.

An extreme far right loon just killed a less far right loon because he wasn’t extreme enough. I think we as a society have bigger things to focus on other than BTC creating a left leaning infrastructure that isn’t palatable to some (excusing the fact that there is nothing wrong with what he did in the first place).

The rebuild is never going to happen and we are just going to keep losing to fascists if some people can’t get over the fact that we are the big tent party and unfortunately you may be sitting next to someone you only agree with 85% of the time.
 
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I’d argue they are influencing or else Taylor wouldn’t be writing an article about them in the first place (plus some of them like BTC have a million plus followers).

There has to be a counter to all the right wing violence inciting influencing that is going on. You can complain that some people you don’t like are offering a left leaning counter or you can make your own.

An extreme far right loon just killed a less far right loon because he wasn’t extreme enough. I think we as a society have bigger things to focus on other than BTC creating a left leaning infrastructure that isn’t palatable to some (excusing the fact that there is nothing wrong with what he did in the first place).

The rebuild is never going to happen and we are just going to keep losing to fascists if some people can’t get over the fact that we are the big tent party and unfortunately you may be sitting next to someone you only agree with 85% of the time.
Yeah, as I've said, I think the Lorenz shyt is mostly a non-story unless it comes out the program is being used to launder ideas for AIPAC, corporations, or undermine progressive wing of the party.

I agree with what you're saying for the most part about a big tent party. But I think there are some things that are non-negotiable for me personally.

The picture that is often painted is that it's the leftist wing of the party that's unreasonable and unwilling to compromise, I think thats probably true to extent. But the centrist/establishment wing of the party has proven to be just as inflexible.
 

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Yeah, as I've said, I think the Lorenz shyt is mostly a non-story unless it comes out the program is being used to launder ideas for AIPAC, corporations, or undermine progressive wing of the party.
The story wasn’t meant to be a big deal—it only blew up because Blue MAGA got upset that she exposed the dark money program that they refused to openly state they were a part of. She didn’t even imply anything in her writing, shyt she didn’t even suggest it changed how they cover topics. The creators had a meltdown and chose to demean Lorenz the same way MAGA/Trump does whenever an exposé drops.
 

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How do they change this around? I don't think Dems did enough to push the advantage with young people when they had it. Now I'm not sure how they get it back.
Dems young influencers all establishment cornballs or extra feminine. Parnas,Harry sisson, that fat bytch Olivia Julianna, the gay cac none of them worth following. All of them sound like mouth pieces whereas republicans sound like normal people that reach out to gen z although racist outside of Benny Johnson crazy ass. Dems dont rewlly push authentic people
 

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I’d argue they are influencing or else Taylor wouldn’t be writing an article about them in the first place (plus some of them like BTC have a million plus followers).

There has to be a counter to all the right wing violence inciting influencing that is going on. You can complain that some people you don’t like are offering a left leaning counter or you can make your own.

An extreme far right loon just killed a less far right loon because he wasn’t extreme enough. I think we as a society have bigger things to focus on other than BTC creating a left leaning infrastructure that isn’t palatable to some (excusing the fact that there is nothing wrong with what he did in the first place).

The rebuild is never going to happen and we are just going to keep losing to fascists if some people can’t get over the fact that we are the big tent party and unfortunately you may be sitting next to someone you only agree with 85% of the time.


By this logic it should be okay to vote MAGA as a black man. What if you really only disagree with their racism:respect:?


Its not as simple as only disagreeing with 15% of what the Dems are pushing. It matters if the issues are non negotiables.

For many,supporting a genocide in Gaza is non negitioable. For some trannies and trans kids are non negotiable. For many,believing in freedom of religion is anti the god of christianity,which is non negotiable. For some,no tangibles is non negotiable.


What are Democrats pushing that should make anyone comprimise and sellout,or turn a blind eye and go against their belief system:mjlol:

Dems have completely failed at painting a picture of the type of America they want. There entire offering is "Well,it wont be what the Republicans are offering:damn:!". While literally offering nothing of substance. Your party has zero vision,and no ability to even paint a tantalizing picture tbh:respect:#AintNoRebuild

 

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Dems young influencers all establishment cornballs or extra feminine. Parnas,Harry sisson, that fat bytch Olivia Julianna, the gay cac none of them worth following. All of them sound like mouth pieces whereas republicans sound like normal people that reach out to gen z although racist outside of Benny Johnson crazy ass. Dems dont rewlly push authentic people
Nice homophobia,

Who do you think they should push?

And what exactly do you mean by “push?” You already basically said anyone who takes dark money should be bushed
 

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Yeah, as I've said, I think the Lorenz shyt is mostly a non-story unless it comes out the program is being used to launder ideas for AIPAC, corporations, or undermine progressive wing of the party.
Agreed. And ironically all it actually did was just expose people to creators and influencers they would have otherwise not known existed. All in all the people she listed are a net positive for where we need to go in terms of people consuming social media.

I agree with what you're saying for the most part about a big tent party. But I think there are some things that are non-negotiable for me personally.
Agreed. For me it’s black issues. At a certain point though if things become non negotiable for enough parties there won’t be anyone viable and the other side coalesces around a fascist and the ball gets moved further down the football field from where we want it.

The picture that is often painted is that it's the leftist wing of the party that's unreasonable and unwilling to compromise, I think thats probably true to extent. But the centrist/establishment wing of the party has proven to be just as inflexible.
For their own reasons both sides are inflexible. Which is why at the end of the day I’m saying everyone is going to get nothing if we don’t get over the fact that in this big tent there are going to be people sitting next to us we only agree with 85% of the time.
 

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Nice homophobia,

Who do you think they should push?

And what exactly do you mean by “push?” You already basically said anyone who takes dark money should be bushed
He (as usual) has no idea what he’s talking about. Literally anyone he doesn’t like is a plant or inauthentic or whatever bullshyt. It’s tiring as hell. Parnas for example is one of the biggest and most respected out there with a giant following, and literally just reports news, apparently he’s doing something right.
 
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Nice homophobia,

Who do you think they should push?

And what exactly do you mean by “push?” You already basically said anyone who takes dark money should be bushed
We just watched Richie Torres crash out cause he had to ask an authentic question that wasn't controlled by 💰. You don't have to have dark money in order to appear on younger and up and coming streamers platforms authenticately. No one wants to watch these people run to mouth piece platforms, that's what republicans actually do unlike democrats they go in any line of fire big or small. They'll give some trash ass spin but they will show up
 

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Every black man in America needs to take note of the bolded. Dont lame out on potential prophecy,i havent been wrong yet.

Although im actually shocked out how quickly Democrats appear to be transitioning into their new strategy. That Newsome tweet about "continuing his work" in regard to Kirk should tell you everthing you need to know. Some of you really need to just sit back and allow things to play out a bit. Would hate to see you(as black men), being apart of ushering in a new wave of "Diet Maga" thats soon to be the Democratic party. Although many of you will likely say "Diet Maga is still more healthy than regular Maga":respect:


Oh so this is one of the things you were alluding to with the Democrats racist past.


It was actually the Democrats who helped inspire the "Southern Strategy",the strategy used by Republicans to appeal to white racist,leaving black people with no true autonomy as American voters.


There was a time where the Democrats were more racist than the Republicans. And due to voter supression by the Democrats,plus sheer numbers, The Republicand continued to get mollywhopped in elections. Then the Civil rights movement came,and by black people negotiating with the very people oppressing us. We begin to take a liking to those good ol white men in the Democratic party.


Republicans understood white racism,and knew southerners would be turned off by Democrats starting to cozy up with blacks. So they saw the opening and adopted the Southern Strategy to win back white racist in the south from the historically racist Dems. They started winning elections again and havent looked back since


And no,im not saying this to excuse or deflect because im a secret MAGA agent. Im saying this to say things go in cycles. Let the Democrats keep getting mollywhopped in these elections,and we will see how long before they take on a new strategy
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Nope,instead of putting their efforts into disenfranchized black voters,they are putting their energy and empathy into white racist. Dont say i didnt warn yall. Democrats are in fact adopting their own version of the The Southern Strategy. Guess it will be called the Mason Dixon strategy where they fence sit. Trying to pull in white racist with subtle racism,while saying enough to allow Democratic c00ns to deflect and continue to defend then. Or they will take the approach of appealing to white liberal racist who have a different type of racism.:respect:


Peanut gallery,i havent steered you wrong yet with the play by play and prophecy. The bolded didnt take long at all. Dems already have been talking about how white racist need to be given more leeway to express and explain their racism. "Diet Southern Strategy" coming right up. Curious to see how the coli liberal loyalist will try to sell this new vision to us as black men. Let me guess,its "less evil" right:respect:?
 
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