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People only care about what his daughter says is because she’s his daughter, there’s pressure on him to make a comment by default and he hasn’t.
I disagree. They're going after her because she's a public figure. They're going after people that work at Dollar Tree so of course they're going to go after someone that appears on TV and works for the WWE.
The rock could easily put out a milquetoast statement to satisfy the news outlets bet hasn’t. He could easily put out a statement to score cheap points with his conservative fans but he hasn’t.
Why would he put out a statement that could potentially upset people when he can just say nothing.
Newsom’s statement is probably phony because it wouldn’t surprise me if Newsom was a psychopath that doesn’t feel real empathy. If he didn’t experience real empathy it would make sense why his overreaction comes off as a massive miscalculation for his political future
The miscalculation was doing a podcast to get into the minds of Republican voters and choosing to speak with Bannon and Kirk. Then doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on it ever since. I see no reason to think he's galaxy braining this. Whether he actually liked Kirk or is pretending to like Kirk is a distinction without a difference. "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be," - Vonnegut
 

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I disagree. They're going after her because she's a public figure. They're going after people that work at Dollar Tree so of course they're going to go after someone that appears on TV and works for the WWE.

You’re being purposefully obtuse.

If she wasn’t Rock’s daughter it wouldn’t make headlines. That’s why articles include her being rocks daughter in the headline.
Why would he put out a statement that could potentially upset people when he can just say nothing.
His silence is deafening, by saying nothing he is also saying something
 

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If she wasn’t Rock’s daughter it wouldn’t make headlines. That’s why articles include her being rocks daughter in the headline.
You posited that people only care what she said because she's his daughter. I disagree with that assertion.
His silence is deafening, by saying nothing he is also saying something
What is it that you believe is being communicated by his saying nothing?
 

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He doesn’t fukk with Kirk on principle
Ha, I think that's a pretty generous interpretation to give towards a non-statement. I don't know whether he is a fan of Kirk or not, but given his, lets say, “incoherent” politics up to this point, I don't think it can be ruled out because of the absence of a statement saying he does. I have no doubt he’d much rather his movie do well than eulogize/admonish Kirk. So absent some kind of movement to boycott the movie (this is very much on the table) without him saying something, I doubt he will.

Agree to disagree.
 

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How do they change this around? I don't think Dems did enough to push the advantage with young people when they had it. Now I'm not sure how they get it back.

Probably not much they can do unless people get tired of MAGA. We're probably looking at GOP control for a long time.

They control the media so it's hard to see much changing. :francis:
 

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Probably not much they can do unless people get tired of MAGA. We're probably looking at GOP control for a long time.

They control the media so it's hard to see much changing. :francis:
We probably can start by going in the direction voters have been asking for for about a decade.



Or we can just keep worrying about the republican boogie man and their framing
 

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Need moderate versions of his message or socialist in general :manny: we know what way we need to go
 

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Probably not much they can do unless people get tired of MAGA. We're probably looking at GOP control for a long time.

They control the media so it's hard to see much changing. :francis:
The media doesn’t matter when your jobless broke and hungry. Just like every other time people will come crawling back to the adults in the room. You’re seeing it right now with all these special election over performances. The issue will be keeping them from giving into their racist instincts after 2028.
 

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He’s a calculated coward. His daughter’s rhetoric has nothing to do with him, and anyone who thinks otherwise is operating on the shallow end of the IQ spectrum. There are plenty of celebrity political cowards—DJ Khaled, Patrick Mahomes, LeBron James (we haven’t forgotten Tamir Rice). The Rock makes calculated decisions, too


By having his daughter put out a statement,half the people will assume Rock must share the same views.

The fact he hasnt bothered defending his own daughter, will make the other half think he must be right wing and not agree with her.


Hes the ultimate politician:mjlol:,much better at this than Newsome who makes it obvious hes a phony:respect:
 

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Dems need to push back against this free speech shyt, because republicans lawmakers are openly going after citizens who don't say kind things about kirk

I mean, they the Administration is already actively implementing policies that violate the first amendment. This is beyond just "rhetoric", they are currently considering a new policy that will allow the State Department to revoke US passports of citizens who provide material support to "terrorist" (similar to what the UK is doing with supporters of Palestine action). And guess what, Marco Rubio gets to decide what constitutes a terrorist as well as what constitutes material support.

And shortsighted bigots like @Napoleon and @the cac mamba are ok with some of the authoritarian actions being taken against immigrants because they don't think it will ever affect citizens. Who could have seen it coming (except anyone with a brain)? Now they'll be coming for citizens too.

Republican plan would make it easier to revoke US passports: What to know
 
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