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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Any data to back that up? Or are you just going on feels? Go to any fundamentalist Islamic country and you’ll see how backwards the religion is and how incompatible it is with liberalism

Emma Vigeland crying about islamophobia…girl, they’d destroy you over there

 

[Outlaw]

Emma Vigeland crying about islamophobia…girl, they’d destroy you over there

These puritan leftists need to learn what the term Taqiyya means

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I guess it boils down to Christianity and Judaism as practiced in America is more compatible with secularism than fundamentalist Islam.


Buddhist, Hindus or Taoist don’t experience the same type of discrimination

If the issue was really about secular compatibility, then the same scrutiny would be applied to fundamentalist strains of Christianity or practices within Hasidic Judaism. But we both know that's not how it works.

 

[Outlaw]

If the issue was really about secular compatibility, then the same scrutiny would be applied to fundamentalist strains of Christianity or practices within Hasidic Judaism. But we both know that's not how it works.

I agree with you, same scrutiny should be applied to fundamentalist Christianity and Judaism as well. I’d say it should be applied to all fundamentalist organized religion because it’s holds back human potential.

I think liberals and the left should be more hostile towards religion but that would be political suicide

 

[the cac mamba]

The hate for the religion is rooted by the hate for the people.

while islamophobia based in racism certainty exists, islam's treatment of gays and women goes against everything progressives claim to stand for. you're fulla shyt

you're fukkin right that beating women for the 'crime' of leaving the house without covering their hair, as official policy, has no place in america. and will absolutely be rejected. and last i checked, throwing gays off of buildings goes against your radical tranifesto as well

so make up your mind, because if you can't even criticize islam for values that you despise, you don't get to criticize the people who aren't afraid of calling it out

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

bird babble

All you're doing is reinforcing my point. You're the perfect example of the hypocrisy and bigotry I'm talking about.

 

[the cac mamba]

if Dems have one takeaway from the 2020-2024 era, picking the VP should be done a lot more strategically in the future. that person has to be a viable winner, who could easily win a primary without a coronation

i was thinking about this yesterday; as much as i wanted Kamala to be primaried by Newsom, that would have horrendously fractured the party her supporters would have been furious at her losing. but as we saw, she wasn't a good general election candidate. and she NEVER was

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I agree with you, same scrutiny should be applied to fundamentalist Christianity and Judaism as well. I’d say it should be applied to all fundamentalist organized religion because it’s holds back human potential.

I think liberals and the left should be more hostile towards religion but that would be political suicide

That sounds nice in a vacuum, but in the real world, certain forms of bigotry are being normalized. We shouldn't be rationalizing it or hiding behind hypotheticals. We should be calling it out for what it is.

 

[Outlaw]

if Dems have one takeaway from the 2020-2024 era, picking the VP should be done a lot more strategically in the future. that person has to be a viable winner, who could easily win a primary without a coronation

i was thinking about this yesterday; as much as i wanted Kamala to be primaried by Newsom, that would have horrendously fractured the party her supporters would have been furious at her losing. but as we saw, she wasn't a good general election candidate. and she NEVER was

You didn’t realize the potential for an irreparable fracture at the time? That’s the only reason people supported Kamala because most thought it was the most pragmatic choice given all the factors even if she wasn’t anyone’s first choice in a fair primary

 

[Outlaw]

That sounds nice in a vacuum, but in the real world, certain forms of bigotry are being normalized. We shouldn't be rationalizing it or hiding behind hypotheticals. We should be calling it out for what it is.

If fundamentalist islam is rooted in anti liberalism and anti leftist values, should we be able to call it out honestly or should we have to prop it up because Republicans are mean to them?

To be clear I don’t see an issue with being a bigot towards a religion because no one should be forced to be part of a religion. It’s a choice, at least in America

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

All you're doing is reinforcing my point. You're the perfect example of the hypocrisy and bigotry I'm talking about.

What do you think happens when you say I’m a bigot? Shame? Regret? An awareness that I did something wrong?

You have given up on persuasion or mere argument and just resort to name calling.

OK. Now what?

Whats your favorite part about islam?

 

[the cac mamba]

You didn’t realize the potential for an irreparable fracture at the time?

i placed winning the general election above it given the election results, i don't feel that was wrong. what did non-fracturing get us?

and i didn't think it was irreparable. kamala goes along with it, speaks directly to her supporters that stopping trump was most important

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If the issue was really about secular compatibility, then the same scrutiny would be applied to fundamentalist strains of Christianity or practices within Hasidic Judaism. But we both know that's not how it works.

both of which have perpetuated and defended MORE liberalism than islam has in the USA. This isn’t to say either couldn’t regress further but there a longer tradition here that has had to self-regulate.

Islam has a long way to go.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

That sounds nice in a vacuum, but in the real world, certain forms of bigotry are being normalized. We shouldn't be rationalizing it or hiding behind hypotheticals. We should be calling it out for what it is.

I hope you dont think a progressive society protects the homeland cultures of immigrants or their religious practices to insulate them from the modernizing progressive nature of their adopted new home country, right?

 

[the cac mamba]

If fundamentalist islam is rooted in anti liberalism and anti leftist values, should we be able to call it out honestly or should we have to prop it up because Republicans are mean to them?

that's exactly what they believe

and it's actually quite patronizing. these men putting sharia law in place aren't looking for approval or a "pass" from goofy white liberals in america

imagine if republicans made it official policy to not let women vote/serve in government, or drive, or leave the house without covering their hair. we'd never hear the end of it from liberals. but if muslims do it, it's fine