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Asking why leaders of a political movement are doing something is out of the question? So I shouldn't question Bernies thought process for boosting up another red flag person. Got it.

So if I listen to the majority report or breaking points I shouldn't question why a host who also doesn't live in that state is so hellbent on defending a person. I'm the crazy one for that. Got it.

We'll just have to see that play I guess.
You should find where I said any of this.

What I am calling out is you comparing this to what happened with Biden and Harris, when all I said is there is a primary to come and more candidates can emerge.

What I am calling out is you creating a scenario and believing that's happened when there is still a primary remaining.
 

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Experts Say Blue States Can Stop Paying Federal Taxes. There’s Legal Precedent​





Big, if true.
 

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Building name recognition, it helps being one of the most known names in the primary bucket.
Take note because these will be the same people in three years talking about centrist Voltron when people vote for the guy that’s been on their social media feeds every day for 3+ years shytting on Trump and fighting for them (ie prop 50) and now shytting on the dem establishment (calling the senate pathetic after the shutdown) instead of who breaking points and majority report told them to vote for 3 months before the primary starts. They are nauseatingly predictable.
 

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You should find where I said any of this.

What I am calling out is you comparing this to what happened with Biden and Harris, when all I said is there is a primary to come and more candidates can emerge.

What I am calling out is you creating a scenario and believing that's happened when there is still a primary remaining.
You should find where I said anything about Biden or Kamala. Cause I didn't. I never said anything about Biden or Harris you brought them up not me. I asked why people at the forefront of the progressive left are so attached to Platner.

I'm calling out how people like Bernie, Krystal, Kyle, Emma are all in on Platner. When there's still so much time for the primary to play out. Do you believe they will suddenly stop speaking up Platner as the primary plays out?
 

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Why would he lay out a platform and agenda in 2025?

Not to mention, it isn't smart to talk about a future platform with so much going on today.
Why wouldnt he? He could be leading the vision he think the party should take. He could talk about how ineffective Joe biden administration was and where they went wrong. Lots of things he can talk about outside of Trump. He could discuss his plan for fixing Healthcare which is on voter mind right now.
 

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Why wouldnt he? He could be leading the vision he think the party should take. He could talk about how ineffective Joe biden administration was and where they went wrong. Lots of things he can talk about outside of Trump. He could discuss his plan for fixing Healthcare which is on voter mind right now.
My brother in Christ have you not seen any of the recent Prop 50 coverage?

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And how did you manage to weave in shots at Biden in this conversation? :mjtf:
 

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What makes him a bad candidate?
Because he fukking sucks and hasn't done a good job in Cali. His policy toward homelessness and housing sucks. His policies towards policing sucks. He sucks and is more of the same which isn't what people seem to want at this moment.

Why do you think he is the next president of the US?
 

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My brother in Christ have you not seen any of the recent Prop 50 coverage?
Prop 50 have nothing to do with running for president. The reality is he hasn't been a good governor in california, which is why he is taking up media attention on onlh fighting trump after initially capitulating hanging out with Charlie kirk and Steve Bannon throwing everyone under the bus. He's a opportunist and terrible politician
 

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Prop 50 have nothing to do with running for president

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It’s moments like yesterday where I don’t see why there hasn’t been an organized progressive “Tea Party” movement. One thing you can learn from Trump is that MAGA took the party over. People that are pissed off need to start yesterday with looking at their local Dems/Progressives groups and organizing. Don’t want weak centrist Dems? Push progressives so that maybe you find that one candidate out of the bunch that has everything to take over so yesterday never happens again.
 

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It’s moments like yesterday where I don’t see why there hasn’t been an organized progressive “Tea Party” movement. One thing you can learn from Trump is that MAGA took the party over. People that are pissed off need to start yesterday with looking at their local Dems/Progressives groups and organizing. Don’t want weak centrist Dems? Push progressives so that maybe you find that one candidate out of the bunch that has everything to take over so yesterday never happens again.
There are some significant differences between the two major parties when it comes to leadership turnover and the willingness to relinquish power. Historically, Republicans have been more open to stepping aside after shifts in political momentum or electoral setbacks. For example, Newt Gingrich—who led the Republican Party in the 1990s—left the spotlight relatively quickly. Had he been a Democrat, it’s likely he would still be in power or at least remain a central figure within the party establishment.Contrast that with Chuck Schumer. Despite the Senate under his leadership losing multiple elections, he continues to hold power and shape the Democratic agenda. This kind of entrenched leadership is far less common in the Republican Party.

Consider the “young three” Republican figures who rose to prominence in the early 2010s. All of them have since faded from the national stage. The GOP tends to cycle through its talent more aggressively, often replacing leaders who falter rather than allowing them to linger indefinitely. Meanwhile, the Democratic establishment not only clings to power but often grooms successors who mirror their priorities and loyalties—essentially handpicking ideological clones to fill their shoes. This creates a self-reinforcing system where change is superficial and real reform is stifled.

What Democrats need is a top-down rebalancing of power—one that breaks free from the grip of major donors who currently dictate the party’s interests. Until that happens, the party risks stagnation, with leadership more focused on preserving influence than responding to grassroots demands or electoral accountability.
 

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Because he fukking sucks and hasn't done a good job in Cali. His policy toward homelessness and housing sucks. His policies towards policing sucks. He sucks and is more of the same which isn't what people seem to want at this moment.

Why do you think he is the next president of the US?
California residents seem to feel he's doing a fairly good job

According to our latest survey, 79% of Democrats approve of the way that Newsom is handling his job, compared to 43% of independents and just 9% of Republicans. In our October survey, 69% of Democrats, 38% of independents and 8% of Republicans expressed approval. In other words, positive views among Democrats and independents have grown while Republicans’ opinions have not budged. In fact, partisans have been deeply divided in their support for Gavin Newsom since he ran for governor in 2018.

Your critique is reactionary and emotional. But I believe he's going to be the Dem nominee and president for the following tangible reasons mixed with my opinion:

- He's a moderate who can lean left when needed
- He's young and not of the establishment
- He will bring a significant donor base along with him - allowing the party to get more creative his campaign and messaging
- He stepped up and demonstrated leadership through some of the worst wild fires California has ever seen with little to no help from the federal government because he's on oval office sh*t list
- He has been able to address core state issues in public education spending, health and wildfire protections in turning the states budget around
- Homelessness was problem when he became governor and has increased a lot due to affordability, if Senate Bill 79 sees any moderate success he'll be able to point to that and several of the other bills he's signed to ease building restrictions.
- At the end of the day neither is an issue that can be fixed in 8 years - true all of his efforts have yielded next to no decreases, he has documented attempts at tackling the problem
- He will be able to point to managing world's fifth-largest economy. I'm sure his team will spin how that scale is comparable to issues we see nationwide and how his successes make him qualified to manage it
- Getting in front of the 2 largest hispanic populations in the nation is a smart strategic move
- Yes, he is the only Dem actively battling with the Trump - people will remember that
- My opinion is that he would be able to tap a diverse in thought and policy cabinet - which could ultimately be his strength
 

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Me either. He hasn't talked about any plans for the future just anti Trump stuff. Only goes so far for a lame duck president, before people actually look at his record as governor which is piss poor.
That's my concern. The voters are interested in affordability and will be more interested in that the worse it gets. Has he even done that for his state?
 

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At 31 min An important conversation between the higher learning pod cast and rising democratic star summer Lee takes place.

An interesting point in the discussion involved Graham platner and a curious streak amongst some progressives who tend to have a cavalier attitude regarding race, including an interesting point that we aren’t equal even in a class based struggle (a point made on here by some which certainly will ruffle the feathers of our all stars).

And again please be careful when referencing this post because some of our smooth minded all stars hate black women in politics and have a tendency to use a variety of anti black slurs to describe them.

Let the rebuild continue.

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