Newsom is definitely a part of the establishment. And we don't really need another moderate Democrat presidential candidate again. We've only tried that and that got us Trump.California residents seem to feel he's doing a fairly good job
Californians’ Changing Views of Their Governor
A majority of Californians approve of how Gavin Newson is handling his job as governor, an increase from last October. PPIC Statewide Survey director Mark Baldassare discusses the factors that might be driving this uptick.www.ppic.org
Your critique is reactionary and emotional. But I believe he's going to be the Dem nominee and president for the following tangible reasons mixed with my opinion:
- He's a moderate who can lean left when needed
- He's young and not of the establishment
- He will bring a significant donor base along with him - allowing the party to get more creative his campaign and messaging
- He stepped up and demonstrated leadership through some of the worst wild fires California has ever seen with little to no help from the federal government because he's on oval office sh*t list
- He has been able to address core state issues in public education spending, health and wildfire protections in turning the states budget around
- Homelessness was problem when he became governor and has increased a lot due to affordability, if Senate Bill 79 sees any moderate success he'll be able to point to that and several of the other bills he's signed to ease building restrictions.
- At the end of the day neither is an issue that can be fixed in 8 years - true all of his efforts have yielded next to no decreases, he has documented attempts at tackling the problem
- He will be able to point to managing world's fifth-largest economy. I'm sure his team will spin how that scale is comparable to issues we see nationwide and how his successes make him qualified to manage it
- Getting in front of the 2 largest hispanic populations in the nation is a smart strategic move
- Yes, he is the only Dem actively battling with the Trump - people will remember that
- My opinion is that he would be able to tap a diverse in thought and policy cabinet - which could ultimately be his strength
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But we're not going to get a "progressive" candidate anytime soon, Dems are against progressives more than anyone else. So the best you can expect is a moderate who doesn't mind flirting with the progressives.
I wouldn't say that considering the lives of voters are getting worse. A lot can change. We already know the voters don't care for Jeffries and Schumer, who are moderates. So, we know at this point putting another moderate in office is not going to lead them flirting with progressive policies. They will turn against the progressives and seek out Republicans like they've always done, or will just be weak in general appease their corporate donors.
It’s hard to be for something that doesn’t win
I don't know about this one, I think two Trump victories have really radicalized the Democratic base. They are much less interested in candidates who will work across the aisle and much more interested in leaders who will fight (the polls show this).
I think the Democratic electorate is more open to a progressive candidate than they might have been in previous years. I'm not saying AOC will be the nominee in 2028, but I don't think we can predict what the base will want in 2028. I think they have been forever changed my two Trump terms and the Dem establishment failures during that time period.
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They're moderates who don't want to be seen standing next to progressives. Your next candidate/nominee will be the opposite, they'll probably stand next to progressives but maintain a center left agenda.
The problem here is progressives are suffocated by their own party which prevents them from winning and then they get chastised for not winning.
We’ve brought this up over and over and the jist is it’s easier to complain rather than work towards power.
Why don’t progressives run blue strongholds? Centrist Voltron. Why don’t progressives take over the south and Midwest where central dems have no power or influence? AIPAC. It’s always an excuse. But thankfully these dummies on here don’t represent people in real life for the most part.
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That would be a logical expectation. The problem is the message that is being delivered by the electorate is that they want less "identity politics" and more specific middleclass targeted politics.
Can't have both, have to choose one. Unless the progressives are prepared to rebrand and pull closer to the center.
I don’t think he’s anybody on here first choice but it’s obvious he’s lining everything up with little to no meaningful opposition in the dem party. At minimum he’s off to a giant head start.California residents seem to feel he's doing a fairly good job
Californians’ Changing Views of Their Governor
A majority of Californians approve of how Gavin Newson is handling his job as governor, an increase from last October. PPIC Statewide Survey director Mark Baldassare discusses the factors that might be driving this uptick.
Your critique is reactionary and emotional. But I believe he's going to be the Dem nominee and president for the following tangible reasons mixed with my opinion:
- He's a moderate who can lean left when needed
- He's young and not of the establishment
- He will bring a significant donor base along with him - allowing the party to get more creative his campaign and messaging
- He stepped up and demonstrated leadership through some of the worst wild fires California has ever seen with little to no help from the federal government because he's on oval office sh*t list
- He has been able to address core state issues in public education spending, health and wildfire protections in turning the states budget around
- Homelessness was problem when he became governor and has increased a lot due to affordability, if Senate Bill 79 sees any moderate success he'll be able to point to that and several of the other bills he's signed to ease building restrictions.
- At the end of the day neither is an issue that can be fixed in 8 years - true all of his efforts have yielded next to no decreases, he has documented attempts at tackling the problem
- He will be able to point to managing world's fifth-largest economy. I'm sure his team will spin how that scale is comparable to issues we see nationwide and how his successes make him qualified to manage it
- Getting in front of the 2 largest hispanic populations in the nation is a smart strategic move
- Yes, he is the only Dem actively battling with the Trump - people will remember that
- My opinion is that he would be able to tap a diverse in thought and policy cabinet - which could ultimately be his strength
They aren’t suffocated by their own party at all, They just never make compelling cases to voters
And the problem is (at least the people on here) can’t even define progressive. You bring up Bernie or AOC they’ll say they aren’t really progressive look at (insert European country). Whoever wins is going to appeal to a big tent and that will include basically everything left of MAGA. You aren’t building a winning coalition without that and you aren’t making up for their absence with a magical cohort of tens of millions of non voters.
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You can't say that when a Joe Biden adopted a couple progressive ideals (i.e. canceling student debt) and had overwhelming support.
It shows that its not the policies, it's the person the policies are coming from.
The general theme is they are going to want somebody that is “fighting”. There will start to be a purge and instead of complaining about those currently in power, the people interested in it should be making moves to take advantage of how historically weakened the dem party/brand is right now. At least that’s what anyone with any political savvy would do.
Yep. We see over and over people say they want progressive polices then vote en masse for a MAGA lunatic.
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That's the key.