Democratic Party Rebuild

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Damn shame beto stuck in red ass Texas. Hes right that Biden failed future generations by selfishly running again, and he's right that the lack of fight is hurting the party. Hes right on Gaza too

Beto lost because he’s retarded on guns and trans issues in Texas

 

[Outlaw]

Damn shame beto stuck in red ass Texas. Hes right that Biden failed future generations by selfishly running again, and he's right that the lack of fight is hurting the party. Hes right on Gaza too

Beto was my favorite in 2020

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Capitalism and socialism aren't opposite politico-economic models. Almost every OECD nation can be accurately described as having a mixed economy. America has many socialist institutions, and they're often the most popular ones in the entire society. Public schooling is a socialist concept, the fire department is socialist concept,

Public schools and the fire department are not socialist concepts. You negated everything else once you said this. No society has private exclusive schools or fire departments.

Why do yall stoop to such basic bullshyt arguments to attempt to paint yourselves as intellectually serious people?

social security is a socialist concept, medicare and medicaid are socialist concepts, public transportation is a socialist concept, unions are a socialist concept, etc. I think it's fair to say that humanity is evolved enough to handle these institutions and concepts.

The debate is over the ratio of state (aka public) vs corporate (aka private) control. Where America is unique is that there's an ingrained cultural aversion to the very idea of public power and society itself due to a long campaign from Republicans and Conservatives seeking to destroy society so that the interests of private capital can run amok. Most other OECD countries have taken a different path in the 20th century that culturally and materially solidified the gains of the public interest, and have private interests relatively kept in check, which is why this is the only country where socialist is a dirty word. The reason America doesn't provide as robust public benefits to its citizenry as most other OECD countries isn't because of a cap on human psychology, it's just a widespread, semi-successful misinformation con job.

This isn’t answering why cities should maintain single family zoning laws. It’s really this simple and yall keep dodging it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Socialism is a politico-economic philosophy with the goal of public benefit and ownership of the institutions that make up our society and economy.


This would depend on the context of the specific institution we're talking about, but I'm directionally orientation toward private power being subordinated to public power.


Yes, I absolutely believe and trust the public government to do a better job of mass building housing for all of society vs a deregulated private builder industry. I don't consider housing to be a luxury good where the free-market can be allowed free reign, I consider it a human right, which the government will always do a better job of enacting and safeguarding because rights are not conducive to the profit-motive that drives private interests. I feel the same way about the fire department and roads and the school system and healthcare and all other necessities that should be equally available to all people. The private market is simply inferior on these issues compared to the government. Luxury condos, sure let the private builders go nuts. But public/social housing? No.

The federal government literally has stopped building public housing.

99% of you have never heard of the Faircloth Amendment.

https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/PIH/documents/Faircloth%20FAQ%20.pdf

What Is the Faircloth Amendment?

It's both one of the most important obstacles to expanding public housing in the U.S., and not important at all.

nextcity.org

Not to mention private markets would create better quality housing products and with more competition at a cheaper price

 

[wire28]

I may have to watch this apparently riveting debate.

 

[King Kreole]

Public schools and the fire department are not socialist concepts. You negated everything else once you said this. No society has private exclusive schools or fire departments.

Why do yall stoop to such basic bullshyt arguments to attempt to paint yourselves as intellectually serious people?

This dumb jagoff has never heard of a private school.

This isn’t answering why cities should maintain single family zoning laws. It’s really this simple and yall keep dodging it.

It's not answering that question because that wasn't the question I was asked, dumbass.

 

[King Kreole]

The federal government literally has stopped building public housing.

99% of you have never heard of the Faircloth Amendment.

https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/PIH/documents/Faircloth%20FAQ%20.pdf

What Is the Faircloth Amendment?

It's both one of the most important obstacles to expanding public housing in the U.S., and not important at all.

nextcity.org

One of those amendments, introduced by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), would have repealed the Faircloth Amendment, a 1990s-era rule that prevents the expansion of public housing in the United States.

You have this terrible habit of posting links to articles that completely undermine your own arguments because you're too stupid and lazy to read your sources. You cannot cite any progressive critic of Abundance who is in favor of the Faircloth Amendment.

Progressive critics: "Focusing on deregulation without also integrating a critical focus on corporate power will lead to political outcomes that throw the baby out with the bathwater."

Nap, dropped on his head as a baby: "Oh, so you must be in favor of all the bad regulations then, huh?"

 

[CrimsonTider]

nikkas wasting their time talking about socialism like it will ever be close to a reality

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This dumb jagoff has never heard of a private school.


It's not answering that question because that wasn't the question I was asked, dumbass.

Bruh did you say “public school” is socialism?

Like, your barometer of socialism…is public school?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You have this terrible habit of posting links to articles that completely undermine your own arguments because you're too stupid and lazy to read your sources. You cannot cite any progressive critic of Abundance who is in favor of the Faircloth Amendment.

You’re defending the very status quo of regulations that exist while declaring you’re against deregulation (that also includes conservative anti-building statutes)

Progressive critics: "Focusing on deregulation without also integrating a critical focus on corporate power will lead to political outcomes that throw the baby out with the bathwater."

Nap, dropped on his head as a baby: "Oh, so you must be in favor of all the bad regulations then, huh?"

Read about the Faircloth amendment then tell me whether or not theres too much regulation.

 

[Loose]

You’re defending the very status quo of regulations that exist while declaring you’re against deregulation (that also includes conservative anti-building statutes)


Read about the Faircloth amendment then tell me whether or not theres too much regulation.

I am absolutely against deregulation, however im for smart regulation but complete deregulation absolutely not you end up with builders building in sinkhole lands, waste dumps, ruining farm land, poisoned water sources etc. But you're a bush era republican so makes sense you have been crying about wanting deregulation

 

[King Kreole]

nikkas wasting their time talking about socialism like it will ever be close to a reality

I don't know what Fox News has been telling you about socialism but it's already a reality. Our society is filled with socialist institutions.

 

[King Kreole]

Bruh did you say “public school” is socialism?

Like, your barometer of socialism…is public school?

Yet again, we see Nap doesn't understand the definition of the basic terms of the debate he's blustering his way through like a buffoon. Let me guess, your barometer of socialism is Soviet bread lines

Public schooling is one of the most classic examples of a socialist institution. Which private entity owns the public schools in your city, moron? Who is in charge of the deployment of resources and means of production? Is it a private enterprise or is it a publicly-run entity like a school board? Who pays for public schools? Private investors or is it publicly-funded by government taxation?

But perhaps public schooling is too triggering an example for you because you were held back multiple grades, so we can do social security, medicare and medicaid, public libraries, police and fire departments, the national park system, roads...

 

[King Kreole]

You’re defending the very status quo of regulations that exist while declaring you’re against deregulation (that also includes conservative anti-building statutes)

Yeah if I too sniffed glue recreationally I could see how this would be a gotcha.

Read about the Faircloth amendment then tell me whether or not theres too much regulation.

How about you find me the post where I claimed there needs to be more regulation in every area and instance. Because surely you're not just assigning that made-up idea to the people you're currently failing to debate. Like, surely you're not just using one area of poor regulation to counter people who are critical of a widespread deregulatory movement that doesn't account for the attendant phenomenon of corporate power. Surely you're not that stupid and bad-faithed...right?

 

[the next guy]

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