Democrats Scramble to Win Over More Black Men

[MoneyTron]

Yall really in here talking about a black jobs plan when Biden rolled that initiative out about a month ago.

Meanwhile, Trump hasn't said a word other than "We're open, 1,000 people are going to die a day but yeah you ******s are on your own. AMERICA BYKE!" and yet we're in here acting like Joe is the bad guy.

 

[Atlrocafella]

OP is a c00n and a sensitive bytch ass nikka.

Spoiler

and a falc00ns fan

That’s how you feel. Damn, thought we was coo

 

[Pressure]

That’s how you feel. Damn, thought we was coo

We are. But you tripping and I hoped some NFC south level of shyt talk would get you back one code.

 

[Atlrocafella]

We are. But you tripping and I hoped some NFC south level of shyt talk would get you back one code.

I’m just posting the article for discussion, I’m supporting Joe Biden regardless




Oh and fukk the Panthers

 

[mastermind]

i have been thinking seriously about this lately and it pretty much leads me down a bleak path. our status as surplus labor in lucrative blue collar fields may always make us everyone's political enemy as long as capitalism dominates. there is simply no way we should be as oppressed as we are in blue states. clearly there is no consequence for democrats turning their backs on us in states like minnesota. most black folk i talk to dont even think of police oppression as a function of local politics, so our attention isnt even really focused in any meaningful way. the effort to keep us from connecting dots is very effective. the only positive i can think of is the effort to separate black women from black men cant really work that well since black women's life outcomes are still heavily impacted by that of the men they are born to or bear children with.

we have no real political solution on the table for this election season and i fear the riots and protests are losing steam. with no leadership on that front, we may end up with minimal change toward the prison industrial complex. when you see people like clyburn talking against divestment in police, you already know they know we have no political alternatives. shyt is rough, but i cant blame a centrist for doing what works for them and their donors.

still, trump is not an alternative. any breh who thinks otherwise is simply not paying attention. trump can signal that he is to the left of these democrats only as an effort to shame them for their neoliberal policies and score political points. he is still in favor of using the military and even unidentified "officers" against citizens. he is threatening to use the miltiary to overthrow "CHAZ" in seatle. there is no candidate that will actually change anything on a systemic level.

I think 2022 and 2024 is when we see this mature into something bigger. It came too late in 2020. Imo, the key is to vote out the Trump allies and enablers this year, and then actually hold legislators accountable in 2022 and 2024. That means keeping up the pressure throughout and having a real message, and pushing these activists into politics.

I agree with you tho.

 

[mastermind]

As for this topic, black men care about their finances like everyone else.

Joe Biden has no plan to address economic disparities. I say black is the scariest word to say in America, but it’s actually class. These politicians will never talk about economic class and most people are unaware of their own Economic class. It’s not taught much in schools and never discussed in media.

Black people and poor people will turn out to vote once there is policy addressing class. The political elite in this country doesn’t want to talk about that.

 

[Conan]

I think 2022 and 2024 is when we see this mature into something bigger. It came too late in 2020. Imo, the key is to vote out the Trump allies and enablers this year, and then actually hold legislators accountable in 2022 and 2024. That means keeping up the pressure throughout and having a real message, and pushing these activists into politics.

I agree with you tho.

If you think that'll happen I got a bridge in Spokane I wanna sell you.

The appeal for Biden isn't that shyt is gonna change after Trump... It's gonna go back to the good old days. You think people will have that energy in two years? You're a more optimistic man than I am.

 

[mastermind]

You think people will have that energy in two years?

Read what I said. Idk if people will continue the same energy and my point is that it’s too late for 2020.

What I will say tho is activist wont fall asleep again like they did under Obama. Also if you think police shootings will dissipate over the next four years, I have oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

If you value the anti-lgbt/anti-feminist stuff over the same people being anti-black and pretty much openly racist, I think it might be time to reconsider your values

This is a lot of what these "Black Men" don't realize.

If your platform/movement involves removing the rights and protections of others, not only will it not hold weight legally, but there will be no actual support for the movement beyond it's members.

Again, LGBT shyt...while it may disgust you, only serves to protect your rights as a Black man because their rights are tied into civil rights and liberties, the same civil rights and liberties that racist white people want to remove because they protect YOU.

 

[yseJ]

As for this topic, black men care about their finances like everyone else.

Joe Biden has no plan to address economic disparities. I say black is the scariest word to say in America, but it’s actually class. These politicians will never talk about economic class and most people are unaware of their own Economic class. It’s not taught much in schools and never discussed in media.

Black people and poor people will turn out to vote once there is policy addressing class. The political elite in this country doesn’t want to talk about that.

Didn't Bernie address class ?

 

[mastermind]

Didn't Bernie address class ?

He didn’t do a good job tying it to how it affected our daily lives.

 

[F K]

Trump is a funny guy and represents wish fulfillment for many American males of all races. He says offensive things, has skated through tons of sexual harassment and rape charges, has had multiple wives (including models) is rich and successful without having to accommodate to any of the new liberal cultural mores or restrictions.


They like Trump because Trump is them if they were rich and successful, except switch out hating Blacks and Hispanics for hating Hispanics, Asians, and (maybe) Whites. This is why Trump does better with Males of all races than he does with the Women in the same demographic groups.

Poor white people constantly vote for rich white people who despise them.. it's no surprise that Black Men are also willing to vote for people who hate them.

 

[ogc163]

The ish I hear/read from my Black working-class family in NYC is straight in line with the stuff you see in TLR, the Black working-class man is not enthusiastic about his place in the democratic party. The apathy is prevalent and their dislike of Trump is not intense enough to move the needle, and sadly I don't think the George Flloyd situation moves the needle for them. But I don't think Black men are going to Trump in substantial numbers, but voter turn out may remain mediocre. And that doesn't bode well for the Biden campaign, but with the window being so small I don't foresee them creating a policy that creates excitement amongst Black men.

I have stated both here and TLR that the condescension towards Black poor and working-class men can potentially have substantial negative consequences. The not so subtle classism, dismissiveness, and lack of power or visibility within the media have led to similar attitudes towards technocrats that you find among white working-class men. The obvious difference is that Black men lack the same amount of leverage and their downside risk is much greater. Black working-class men aren't trying to hear some complex Chomsky lite analysis and they are already disillusioned with mainstream liberalism, and so the persuasive methods have to change.

 

[DrBanneker]

If you value the anti-lgbt/anti-feminist stuff over the same people being anti-black and pretty much openly racist, I think it might be time to reconsider your values

This is basically how Culture War politics allowed the White lower and middle classes screw themselves over voting against their economic interests for the last generation. Yeah I don't like a lot of the Democratic party rhetoric either now but to vote against our overall interests because of some trans rhetoric...nah I'll pass

 

[CrimsonTider]

This is basically how Culture War politics allowed the White lower and middle classes screw themselves over voting against their economic interests for the last generation. Yeah I don't like a lot of the Democratic party rhetoric either now but to vote against our overall interests because of some trans rhetoric...nah I'll pass

You get that thinking from keyboard militants on here and twitter

no one sane is upset at Dems pushing for equality of that community