"DESTINY" 2014-15 Chicago Bulls Season Thread

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@red222 regarding Butler's quotes

didn't he say something like this earlier in the season? Thibs needs to not play the guy 45 mins a game and maybe he could play better defense
 

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the ideal situation RE: Thibs , is him just smartening up

there is no reason he cant be better with rotations, minute management, etc.

then again, we've railed on him for years on this shyt

I've come to the realization that he is what he is.

I actually want to see Rose in a good offense before his career is over breh.
 

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I've come to the realization that he is what he is.

I actually want to see Rose in a good offense before his career is over breh.
What bothered me too was there is no man movement in our offense, no one cuts, and we screen to far away from the basket and Joakim can't close in 4th against them due to him clogging driving lanes.
 

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Maybe we do need to get rid of Thibbs just like GS did with Jackson. We could stink but we could also improve to esp if we get a coach with better offense that keeps the D relatively the same.
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http://grantland.com/the-triangle/winners-and-losers-in-the-nba-playoffs/

LOSER: Chicago’s Frontcourt and Nonthreatening Bigs
Another way the league is getting smarter: More teams are flat-out ignoring big guys who can’t shoot or post up. Bogut might have been the first big man to really optimize the defensive three-second rule like this — or at least take things to the extreme. If Omer Asik was at the elbow during the Warriors-Pelicans series, Bogut was somewhere else — doubling Anthony Davis in the post, butting his way into a passing lane, and generally paying Asik no attention.

More teams are following suit, in a few ways. Milwaukee is fine switching wing players onto Joakim Noah, confident a hobbled Noah has no shot to punish them. That has neutered a lot of the Noah handoffs that once powered Chicago’s Derrick Rose–less offense:



Noah has also struggled slipping entry passes to Butler in the post, since Noah’s guy just ignores him to double Butler. You can bet the Cavs, facing the possibility of having to play small more without Kevin Love, have taken note.

There are ways for offenses to counter this. The Bulls have turned over some handoff duty to Taj Gibson, who has enough back-to-the-basket game that teams will at least think twice about switching a smaller player onto him. And if no one is guarding your big man, you can always involve him in a pick-and-roll; his guy will be out of the play, in no position to meet a ball handler darting around a pick. The Pelicans hurt Golden State like this a few times:
Chicago’s frontcourt is a giant question mark. Noah is hurting, and Gibson has been in a slump since returning from an ankle injury; he hadn’t attempted a single post-up shot against the Bucks3 before feeling frisky against Jared Dudley in Game 5, per Synergy Sports, and his midrange jumper isn’t the weapon it was last season. Pau Gasol rolls on, but he’s a minus on defense, and it’s unclear if Chicago can survive with a Gasol–Nikola Mirotic front line — or whether Tom Thibodeau will even consider it unless the Bulls are way behind.
Pairing Mirotic with Gibson or Noah would make for a nice offense-defense balance, but none of the three is fully healthy. Thibodeau has played Mirotic much more at small forward since Gibson came back, and while Mirotic can still contribute there, he doesn’t do nearly as much to open up the floor on offense. Mirotic can hang with any of Milwaukee’s big men on defense, and Thibodeau over the last two games has slowly shifted more of Mirotic’s minutes to lineups in which he plays power forward.

There’s an optimal frontcourt rotation in here somewhere. It just doesn’t feel like Chicago will find it.
 

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Nick Friedell ‏@NickFriedell 9m9 minutes ago
Butler, on why he was critical of himself after Game 5: "I don't think I'm the type of player that should shoot 5-for-21."

Nick Friedell ‏@NickFriedell 7m7 minutes ago
Butler: "I have to be a better leader. I think I'm shying back in some aspects of the game and it can't happen ..."

Nick Friedell ‏@NickFriedell 7m7 minutes ago
Butler: "Because I'm in a completely different role than I was the last few years. And I think this team looks to me to score to facilitate"

Nick Friedell ‏@NickFriedell 7m7 minutes ago
Butler: "And to lead. Emotionally and mentally. And I didn't do that. And I can't let that happen so it will be changed [from] here on out."
 

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Cowley was stirring shxt saying

butler x rose battle to see who the ' top dog aka alpha male 'on the team has started lol
 

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Bulls better end this thursday.A game 7 at the uc vs a confident bucks team with kidd runnin circles around thibs scares the shyt outta me

Plus the series needs to end before anybody gets hurt

real talk. they gotta end this bullshyt NOW.

I also see why the NBA pushed back the potential bulls/cavs til after the weekend. they don't wanna have to have to come close to having to compete with floyd/manny this weekend.
 
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