Did "Black Panther" demonize black americans?

[Birnin Zana]

Anyways from the comics BP seemed to understood Black oppression more.

MCU BP just got the job. He'll learn in time.

Comic book BP was king for quick some time when we first see him, so he's much further along in development.

 

[Phitz]

no moral compass? what did he do that WAS NOT necessary to his cause?

he couldnt handle the power he had? how so? because he immediately went to work on his goal once he got it? remember this is a movie, there has to be a protagonist and an antagonist. both cant "win". also this took place in a short period, which is unrealistic in the real world but shortened so you can see it on the screen.

you say his personality wouldve never been satisfied, I didnt see that, especially when he was content with his own death. it was the Wakandans that were actually TOO satisfied and content to stay hidden from the world to protect their resources and maintain their standard of living while the rest of the world were subjugated to some form of oppression and/or colonization.

lol you're all over the place, and not putting your point together logically. Either way, agree to disagree.

That monster he became, he would have killed his own mama if she showed up in the movie,

 

[Phitz]

He was a savage for sure ... but his death symbolized killing off the spirit of revolution and Pan Africanism and Black Liberation.

They also painted the face of revolution to be borderline irrational, possibly enhancing, at least subliminally, some uppity negroes and uppity Africans disdain of those from the most intense of the intense struggle.

They had a real chance to better humanize black folks plight and any subsequent revolution but didn’t. Also think that it shouldn’t been better explained about how Kil felt like he was forced to play within the overarching white “supremacist” system to get a head and how that same system, indirectly led to the death of his pops.

Again, a lot of missed opportunities here for humanization.

They need to make a part 2 and fix that shyt. Now.


But y’all need to understand. American “Wakandans” made this film.

No it did not..

I can not imagine Malcolm, Stokley Carmichael, or Louis Farakhan shooting their girlfriends/wives. That guy was not revolutionary. He was hurt, and hell bent regardless of who he killed to get power to wage an unstrategic war.

 

[ChatGPT-5]

The video in the OP is funny, especially if you've read the comic and know that they.........

:X

 

[Aba_juggin]

If I didn't know Coogler was AA, I'd definitely be in my feelings a bit more about this, but I'm sure breh was doing a little mirror holding exercise with certain aspects of the Killmonger character.

When T'Challa was looking at the necklaces and said he didn't want the gold one because he wanted to be more low-key, then Killmonger was shown wearing it, my chest tightened a little bit, but I kinda get what breh was doing..

explain

 

[Aba_juggin]

No it did not..

I can not imagine Malcolm, Stokley Carmichael, or Louis Farakhan shooting their girlfriends/wives. That guy was not revolutionary. He was hurt, and hell bent regardless of who he killed to get power to wage an unstrategic war.

but whtat about napolean, otto von bismark, and charlemagne the holy roman emperor. They were all like killmonger, but in reality their ruthless methods helped oush Europe and advance it. Napolean introduced a new type of warfare that Europe adopted, otto von bismark used german scientific prowess to unify europe, and charlemagne the holy roman emperor used wars and religion to unify people.

 

[Aba_juggin]

Killmonger an army vet special forces, a mit grsduste, a dude who has fought countless battles and prepared all of his life was to much in a rush

He was more so motivated by hatred. I feel T'Chala could have tried to collaborate with him, but Killmonger was too bloodthirsty and hot headed

 

[Aba_juggin]

so many stupid fakkits when it comes to this movie, killmonger was not a hero. he would've ended up getting all ya'lls black asses killed up within a year. if he had a plan that would strike simultaneously at all the major powers of the world and cripple them beyond retribution, then he would have been talkin about something. as it is, he was just going to agitate and unite the entire earth against wakanda, and then wakanda and most of africa would have been destroyed. we all want to see black people on top, but you can't just latch onto any dumbass idea that has you lashing out without thinking the shyt through. for a best of the best soldier, his strategic thinking sucked, but it is a movie and it has to be written that way so the good guys will win.

I don't like the way his character was written. I feel like for an MIT graduate his thought process could be more thought out and he would be more rational, but he's portrayed as a blood thirsty mercenary out for revenge. Idk i thought it was just weird to see him being so irrational. The movie was cool though

 

[onelastdeath]

DAmn nikkas what happened to this only being a movie

 

[AlainLocke]

No it did not..

I can not imagine Malcolm, Stokley Carmichael, or Louis Farakhan shooting their girlfriends/wives. That guy was not revolutionary. He was hurt, and hell bent regardless of who he killed to get power to wage an unstrategic war.

Killmonger was an special ops trained killer not a speaker/activist...

There's a difference....

If it is war and the mission is Black liberation...what the fukk is a girlfriend?

Sacrifices are too be made...ruthlessness is required...

Being revolutionary and some type of honor code and morality that goes beyond the mission is fantasy.

 

[surv2syn]

lol you're all over the place, and not putting your point together logically. Either way, agree to disagree.

That monster he became, he would have killed his own mama if she showed up in the movie,

there is no proof of that.
just curious...did you ever read the comic?

just as someone said, they sloppily threw in the part about the killing the girlfriend but overall he wasnt evil. he was on an opposing side but its a 2 hour movie, there are things like...his plan, the girlfriend, why he even dealt with Klaue the first portion of the movie, etc...that there was very little context about. then again, if his mother was in the way of hindering his plan then the revolution is bigger than her, she probably would have to go

 

[Premeditated]

to me Killmonger went about his ambitions all wrong. What he should have done first was try to get all the african nations on his side and try to convince them that what he plans to do is for the greater of black folks everywhere. teach them howto use vibranium weapons and have every black person unite. There's strength in numbers. Instead he just went straight for the kill. Don't start an all out war yet. He should have been on some Machiavellian shyt and have spies in every western nation government and military.

 

[ORDER_66]

to me Killmonger went about his ambitions all wrong. What he should have done first was try to get all the african nations on his side and try to convince them that what he plans to do is for the greater of black folks everywhere. teach them howto use vibranium weapons and have every black person unite. There's strength in numbers. Instead he just went straight for the kill. Don't start an all out war yet. He should have been on some Machiavellian shyt and have spies in every western nation government and military.

That's exactly what I said that's why Hydra was was on the cusp of winning they infiltrated shield top to bottom without ever firing a shot.

 

[Premeditated]

Oh so now its MORE than a movie when yall nikkas were telling everyone its just a movie? lol.. You guys can NEVER be consistent.

ether

 

[Phitz]

there is no proof of that.
just curious...did you ever read the comic?

just as someone said, they sloppily threw in the part about the killing the girlfriend but overall he wasnt evil. he was on an opposing side but its a 2 hour movie, there are things like...his plan, the girlfriend, why he even dealt with Klaue the first portion of the movie, etc...that there was very little context about. then again, if his mother was in the way of hindering his plan then the revolution is bigger than her, she probably would have to go

Killmonger was an special ops trained killer not a speaker/activist...

There's a difference....

If it is war and the mission is Black liberation...what the fukk is a girlfriend?

Sacrifices are too be made...ruthlessness is required...

Being revolutionary and some type of honor code and morality that goes beyond the mission is fantasy.

but whtat about napolean, otto von bismark, and charlemagne the holy roman emperor. They were all like killmonger, but in reality their ruthless methods helped oush Europe and advance it. Napolean introduced a new type of warfare that Europe adopted, otto von bismark used german scientific prowess to unify europe, and charlemagne the holy roman emperor used wars and religion to unify people.

Its just a movie, but just on principle...
I dont agree and will never agree with any of ya'll

Yall might as well say you want to kill for the fun of it. People create reasons to do what they really want to do anyway. Me I REALLY don't want to shed blood, especially innocent blood, furthermore, from people who look like me....so I'll find another way. It's called principle.

I'm too lazy to type out the rest of my points but it's probably not worth the time and byte space anyway as none of us will convince the other.