Did we declare K.Dots TPAB a "Pro Black" album or was it assigned for us?

[RAW_SPK]

cats are just playing dumb now.

Or most of these cats are the Tumblr lames crowning this a "Pro Black" Album. Its like calling NWA albums Pro Black. The Albums are created to give a view of life form the eyes of the artist or someone in the environment the Aritist is creating. Dudes is trying to play Semantics and play dumb now with "Pro Black". Dudes know Exactly what Pro Black Means, playing this dumb role one can say "Pro White means being Proud of your Culture "

its mostly the stans though. you can't say anything negative about certain artists. kendrick is immune to criticism by alot of ppl on here. nothing in the OP or thread title was said in a malicious or degrading way but some stans got offended by the question.

ima give my view on it after i roll up and word in a way not to offend the stans or to entice the haters

 

[Red Maverick II]

It was the closest thing to conscious most people have seen in a while, so it def got elevated perception

I was cringing during that interlude on "i" where he tried to defend using the word nikka

Like, black people will fight tooth and nail to be able to slang that word around, KNOWING it's history

I can't really take anybody who claims to be Pro-Black serious if they still use it so loosely

 

[Apollo Creed]

its mostly the stans though. you can't say anything negative about certain artists. kendrick is immune to criticism by alot of ppl on here. nothing in the OP or thread title was said in a malicious or degrading way but some stans got offended by the question.

ima give my view on it after i roll up and word in a way not to offend the stans or to entice the haters

lol thing is nobody is bashing the album, the simple fact people are offended by us saying the album IS NOT "pro black" tells you these are the "outsiders" I`m describing in the OP. I`m giving KD the benefit of the doubt of saying this is NOT a "pro black" album because many people felt that if this was meant to be a "pro black" album then it spewed of "fake hotepness".

For example, Nas imo outside of a few songs does not make "Pro Black" music. Nas as a person may be "Pro Black" thus one can say his albums may have elements that one who considers themselves "pro black" could Identify with, but Nas albums are essentially stories of characters from his life or he created, and songs that are the depicting the world through his eyes.

The PRO in "Pro Black" means to PROMOTE, KD is not really PROMOTING anything on TPAB, he is only telling stories of life through the eyes of himself and or his characters.

 

[TransJenner]

All I know is that 2pac interview was one of the cringiest shyt I ever heard

 

[Wild self]

You ain't gonna get a Public Enemy type album anymore on the mainstream level, thanks to the gangsta rappers that pushed them out in the mid 90s for more materialistic and violent music. They phased it out and called the likes of Chuck D "preachy" and "corny." If you looking for a pro black album now, but blast a trap star record talking about catching bodies while sipping lean, it's partially your fault why a pro black revolutionary album can't pop off anymore with quality music.

On that note, Kendrick sparked the interest of a generation to push his message to be more aggressive. By no means Kendrick the GOAT MC, but if he sparks the youth to make pro black songs on the level of Ice Cube, then he done his job.

 

[Pifferry]

According to pro-black coli posters white people have an inordinate amount of power over the average black persons mind.
Puppets.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The semantics are truly amazing. "Pro black" is not simply a black nationalist message. Being pro-black also means being self conscious, having a sense of the political and social status of your race and where it should be going (from your perspective). It is NOT just focused on economics. What's Going On by Marvin Gaye is a pro-black song. Livin For The City by Stevie Wonder is a pro-black song. Neither of which focus on nationalism.

Being pro black is in many ways a part of black pride.

this 100%

 

[IllmaticDelta]

cats are just playing dumb now.

Or most of these cats are the Tumblr lames crowning this a "Pro Black" Album. Its like calling NWA albums Pro Black. The Albums are created to give a view of life form the eyes of the artist or someone in the environment the Aritist is creating. Dudes is trying to play Semantics and play dumb now with "Pro Black". Dudes know Exactly what Pro Black Means, playing this dumb role one can say "Pro White means being Proud of your Culture "

Early NWA did have some Pro-Black elements

 

[Apollo Creed]

You ain't gonna get a Public Enemy type album anymore on the mainstream level, thanks to the gangsta rappers that pushed them out in the mid 90s for more materialistic and violent music. They phased it out and called the likes of Chuck D "preachy" and "corny." If you looking for a pro black album now, but blast a trap star record talking about catching bodies while sipping lean, it's partially your fault why a pro black revolutionary album can't pop off anymore with quality music.

On that note, Kendrick sparked the interest of a generation to push his message to be more aggressive. By no means Kendrick the GOAT MC, but if he sparks the youth to make pro black songs on the level of Ice Cube, then he done his job.

K.Dot is being used for "I want to sit at the table" protest while Cube was creating songs regarding "Revolting" and Self Sufficiency.

K.Dot is not pushing any envelops. He is making Good Music but his music is being used like how people use MLK incorrectly to promote an "easy to digest" narrative.

You think X Clan would be invited to perform at the Grammys or whatever?


It's like Kanye, They created the narrative back in the day that "Kanye is Crazy", so when Kanye spoke real ish people could write it off like "lolol kanye is so crazy and funny "

 

[Wild self]

K.Dot is being used for "I want to sit at the table" protest while Cube was creating songs regarding "Revolting" and Self Sufficiency.

K.Dot is not pushing any envelops. He is making Good Music but his music is being used like how people use MLK incorrectly to promote an "easy to digest" narrative.

You think X Clan would be invited to perform at the Grammys or whatever?


It's like Kanye, They created the narrative back in the day that "Kanye is Crazy", so when Kanye spoke real ish people could write it off like "lolol kanye is so crazy and funny "

You can say the same for Lauryn Hill.

Kendrick took massive risks in the ADD, 808s and hi hats oversaturated market and dropped a masterpiece in contemporary times. Problem is, no one's takes quality music for what it is anymore. People been conditioned to have c00n rappers and rappers who avoid anything of substance.

What other rapper drops pro black music like that anymore? And in the younger generation?

 

[RAW_SPK]

K.Dot is not pushing any envelops. He is making Good Music but his music is being used like how people use MLK incorrectly to promote an "easy to digest" narrative.

THIS is my main gripe with people trying to push him as the new Pac.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Early NWA did have some Pro-Black elements

No.

The purpose of NWA was to give insight into the Black Experience from a different perspective America tended to ignore.

NWA would create hyper violent songs because the purpose was for you to view world through the eyes of a person in that environment.

To say making songs about "the hood" is pro black does that mean if a black person makes songs about the struggles they face in suburban American something else?

Cube in NWA for example was pretty much story telling, while Cube post NWA (and pre Friday) was making music that had a message for the specific purpose of invoking action, THAT is what you would consider "PRO BLACK" as he made music PROMOTING a specific message and ideology. Telling someone about your life and environment is not necessarily PROMOTING and ideal or message.

An Album can have "pro black" elements but that does not make it a pro black album. The albums of the early 90s were PRO BLACK ALBUMS as from start to finish they were PROMOTING something SPECIFIC.

Any Album by a black person that doesnt hate themselves can have pro black elements but once again it does not make it a pro black album.

TPAB is like the Movie The Wood or Menace 2 Society. IT has elements and stories that someone from a background like that can relate to, but The Wood and Menace 2 Society ARE NOT "Pro Black" movies.

 

[Apollo Creed]

You can say the same for Lauryn Hill.

Kendrick took massive risks in the ADD, 808s and hi hats oversaturated market and dropped a masterpiece in contemporary times. Problem is, no one's takes quality music for what it is anymore. People been conditioned to have c00n rappers and rappers who avoid anything of substance.

What other rapper drops pro black music like that anymore? And in the younger generation?

Jay Electronica is a perfect example of someone who includes "Pro Black" content in their song although I would not say he is a "pro black rapper".

 

[TransJenner]

K.Dot is being used for "I want to sit at the table" protest while Cube was creating songs regarding "Revolting" and Self Sufficiency.

K.Dot is not pushing any envelops. He is making Good Music but his music is being used like how people use MLK incorrectly to promote an "easy to digest" narrative.

You think X Clan would be invited to perform at the Grammys or whatever?


It's like Kanye, They created the narrative back in the day that "Kanye is Crazy", so when Kanye spoke real ish people could write it off like "lolol kanye is so crazy and funny "

Well marrying Kim didn't help

 

[Apollo Creed]

THIS is my main gripe with people trying to push him as the new Pac.

Pac is a good example of someone who was Pro Black as a Person but wasn't necessarily a Pro Black Rapper. Now Early Pac made Pro Black Music at times, but later on his music was more so Narratives of a Conflicted person where he is telling stories that display his emotions which has pro black elements but as a body is not particular pro black.

Kendrick's Albums are usually from the perspective of someone who "doesnt have the answers", he essentially makes music asking the question why the things around him are happening, in doing that you are not promoting anything nor solutions while PRO BLACK artist where DIRECTLY calling out the issues DIRECTLY calling out the CAUSE of the issue and DIRECTLY stating their Solutions and or Answers. Kendrick is not doing that and if he is then not consistently enough to be put in the bucket of making a "pro black album".