Did we declare K.Dots TPAB a "Pro Black" album or was it assigned for us?

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Jay Electronica is a perfect example of someone who includes "Pro Black" content in their song although I would not say he is a "pro black rapper".

But that's the point. If Kendrick can inspire someone that got even harder than he did, his music served it's purpose.
 

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Pac is a good example of someone who was Pro Black as a Person but wasn't necessarily a Pro Black Rapper. Now Early Pac made Pro Black Music at times, but later on his music was more so Narratives of a Conflicted person where he is telling stories that display his emotions which has pro black elements but as a body is not particular pro black.

Kendrick's Albums are usually from the perspective of someone who "doesnt have the answers", he essentially makes music asking the question why the things around him are happening, in doing that you are not promoting anything nor solutions while PRO BLACK artist where DIRECTLY calling out the issues DIRECTLY calling out the CAUSE of the issue and DIRECTLY stating their Solutions and or Answers. Kendrick is not doing that and if he is then not consistently enough to be put in the bucket of making a "pro black album".

Only Public Enemy and KRS did that, and they are "old" according to critics, now. Even "the streets" hates anything uplifting to blacks.
 

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Only Public Enemy and KRS did that, and they are "old" according to critics, now. Even "the streets" hates anything uplifting to blacks.

At the end of the day you have to alter your message according to your audience. For Example Look at Jeezy and the whole Thug Motivation thing that would have been the PERFECT vehicle to put the "medicine in the soup".
 

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This.

And another thing, I don't like how the mainstream media, liberal media ie white media is trying to assign what is pro-black and taking it away from black people. Anything that is truly pro-black and supports the development of black economies, governments, and institutions simply is not allowed, this is why society makes it so anything pro-black is anti-white, anti-american, anti-government, anti-police, etc.

As long as black people are fighting for inclusion in already established institutions and industries owned by whites, that will be tolerated.

In turn, I really don't see what's so pro-black about TPAB or Formation...basically it's the tumblr SJW form of pro-black that's easily digestible cause it doesn't actively encourage going at the system but keeps it going cause it profits from it.


Exactly. I don't think people really understand, that anything that is TRULY Pro-Black would be detrimental to White people's way of life and the White power structure
 

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Exactly. I don't think people really understand, that anything that is TRULY Pro-Black would be detrimental to White people's way of life and the White power structure
Not really they would just hear it and consume it like it was a video game. Think about the crowd of a PE concert nowadays or how KRS Has a huge overseas fan base and it aint Africans.
 

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Pac is a good example of someone who was Pro Black as a Person but wasn't necessarily a Pro Black Rapper. Now Early Pac made Pro Black Music at times, but later on his music was more so Narratives of a Conflicted person where he is telling stories that display his emotions which has pro black elements but as a body is not particular pro black.

Kendrick's Albums are usually from the perspective of someone who "doesnt have the answers", he essentially makes music asking the question why the things around him are happening, in doing that you are not promoting anything nor solutions while PRO BLACK artist where DIRECTLY calling out the issues DIRECTLY calling out the CAUSE of the issue and DIRECTLY stating their Solutions and or Answers. Kendrick is not doing that and if he is then not consistently enough to be put in the bucket of making a "pro black album".

I.e. I need artist to hold my hand because I can't think on my own :mjlol:

The average music listener brehs :mjlol:
 

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I've never read a CAC review for any music ever. I just listen. And that album is sonically amazing. On top of having a dope prespective. Y'all let cacs sway your thinking so much your arguing whether cacs are forcing ppl to what? I'm lost. Stop reading cac reviews and KIM.
 

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Not really they would just hear it and consume it like it was a video game. Think about the crowd of a PE concert nowadays or how KRS Has a huge overseas fan base and it aint Africans.

Wouldn't totally agree with that. Music made in current times are viewed differently than music made 20 and 30 years earlier

Back in the 80s and early 90s, those Pro Black song were not viewed the same way as they are now. Most of their songs were not all over white Top 40 radio that much. Russell Simmons even said something of wanting them to tone it down. Plus, KRS One, X Clan, and Brand Nubian never got that pop culture fame when they were in their prime. Public Enemy only got fame because it was through Def Jam, Rick Rubin, Russell, etc.

Public Enemy and KRS One can perform those songs now cause it's thought of as a old school novelty. Look how up in arms the media was for Beyonce's lightweight Formation video :mjlol:. You really think this racist PC world we live in now would even promote X Clan, KRS One, and PE if they were new artists in this era? Nah breh
 

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It's not an "anthem" album minus Alright, it's complex and I wouldn't say that it's pro-black but pro-black is one of the themes.
He goes through black problems due to black people, black problems due to politics, black love, black hate, ignorance, depression, temptations, religion but mainly greed and corruption and being fooled (or pimped) by various things. Only lazy listeners say that it's a "pro-black album".

Perhaps inspired by Khaled
"Congratulations you just played yourself" :mjlol:
 
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