DID YOU KNOW THAT A BLACK WOMAN INVENTED GRUNGE and influenced Kurt Cobain?!

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    That's Chuck Berry and Ike Turner breh
     
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    Huh?
     
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    Can you say she invented it if she is part of a band? I like the song that was posted

    I was thinking about making a thread about what happen to black rock bands, and black lead rock bands of the 80s and early 90s. In that time period it seemed like a bunch popped up and then went away into the 90s
     
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    Her name sounds familiar af. This dope.
     
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    Black people invented punk too
     
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    Invented grunge? No. Definitely a pioneer...but the Sex Pistols added nuance to the Teddy Boys. Then Bruce Pavitt coined the sound and guitars. If anything, Sid Vicious was the creator of grunge, essentially, the Pistols experimented with every sound before anyone else.
     
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    Can you read?

    :gucci:
     
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    Yea i read about her a while back, she died broke and alone, drunk herself to death
     
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    I don’t doubt this at all.
     
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    Sex Pistols pioneered punk of which grunge became somewhat of a offshoot of, but grunge had more "soul", while the style of punk that the Pistols did was devoid of soul. I guess if you wanna go that route, a black band from Detroit invented punk.

    Plus Sid Vicious was a awful musician. He was influential in aesthetics but that crackka couldn't play or sing worth a shyt, those grunge cats had chops
     
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    Misunderstanding, I was hoping you'd a link.
     
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    Was she a rhythm guitarist that wrote the nusic ? Otherwise if she’s just a lead singer how did she “invent” a sound ?
     
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    Presses play.

    Frim the first guitar rift.

    Oh i will be back gotta listen to this shyt.
    Seems kurt hid a band from us.
    He spoke on the melvins quite extensively.
    Yet,....i know these rifts play on the first sub pop record and muddy banks and incesticide. Without referring to my own collection for immediate perfect reference.
    MYbe this is whom kurt spoke on.
    When he would campaign for black artistry.
    Plus high quality administration for black artists.





    Yup.
    Punk is nuffin but bands.
    trying to cover roots reggae staple records.
    With no real cultural standpoint.
    built on knowledge of self or culture.
    It is just sheer further misappropriation of black people making blues.


    Art Barr
     
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    The influence of Metal on the genre is what gave those “grunge” bands those chops and musicianship that typical punk rock didn’t have. Funny enough, the most “punkish” of the big four grunge bands, was Nirvana. And they were noted for not being the best of musicians, and playing a more simplistic “shoegazy” style of music. While the more metal leaning grunge band like Alice N Chains, we’re known for their chops and musicianship and sugary harmonies between lead singer Layne Staley and lead guitarist Jerry Cantrell. Cantrell had the complex and stylistic metal licks. Same with Soundgarden lead guitarist Kim Thayill. That “soul” in Grunge came from the metal/hard rock influence over the genre. While the “attitude” aesthetic and the DIY “scene” it rose from was very punk influenced. Green River, The Melvins, Mother Love Bone, many of the “Big 4” grunge bands had previous membership in some of those aforementioned bands in that very small very close knit “punkish” Seattle scene. And then you had national bands that influenced that scene or grew around that same time period, bands like the pixies, dinosaur jr, etc. The scene was very punkish, but a lot of these guys musicianship and soul came from Metal. It varied from band to band. The harmonies and soul in this track defers greatly from anything remotely “punkish”:

     

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