DID YOU KNOW THAT A BLACK WOMAN INVENTED GRUNGE and influenced Kurt Cobain?!

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[staticshock]

buy all accounts..
yes... she did.
her name is:


sophia stewart.

if i remember right.
i believe she won the case definitively in a state court.


art barr

case got thrown out

 

[Killigraphy]

Sex Pistols pioneered punk of which grunge became somewhat of a offshoot of, but grunge had more "soul", while the style of punk that the Pistols did was devoid of soul. I guess if you wanna go that route, a black band from Detroit invented punk.

Plus Sid Vicious was a awful musician. He was influential in aesthetics but that crackka couldn't play or sing worth a shyt, those grunge cats had chops

You do realize that the Sex Pistols were into and experimented with every sound before it became popular. Johnny Rotten goes in on this in several interviews, as for the "soul" part, that's subjective, Anarchy in the UK literally sounds like a Nirvana song that's less produced....so yes, they inspired everyone. Bell, while great for the genre, was more rock than anything else, especially with songs like Ground Zero. We need to stop with this narrative of PoC's invented everything on the planet....we definitely didn't...its a great spin for a thumbnail or article grab, but everything is recorded...we have proof these days.

 

[mykey]

Black people invented punk too

Specifically, Bo Diddley in 1965

 

[Ski Mask]

Just like i said in that shoegaze thread, its to many bands to claim one "created" a genre. Its better to say she helped pioneer the genre, but i guess that wouldn't get the clicks the author wants.

But i will definitely check out ol girls music out, as im a huge fan of grunge.

 

[Spence]

That's Chuck Berry and Ike Turner breh

Sister Rosetta Tharpe actually predates them all and is the prototype for what rock became.

 

[BuckFilly]

damn, def aint know this

 

[Neuromancer]

Specifically, Bo Diddley in 1965

I thought it was Death.



But I can hear it in Bo'

 

[Biscayne]

You do realize that the Sex Pistols were into and experimented with every sound before it became popular. Johnny Rotten goes in on this in several interviews, as for the "soul" part, that's subjective, Anarchy in the UK literally sounds like a Nirvana song that's less produced....so yes, they inspired everyone. Bell, while great for the genre, was more rock than anything else, especially with songs like Ground Zero. We need to stop with this narrative of PoC's invented everything on the planet....we definitely didn't...its a great spin for a thumbnail or article grab, but everything is recorded...we have proof these days.

The pistols influenced grunge for no other reason than they were one of the most influential punk bands ever. But “grunge” as a genre has too much of metal, hard rock, blues and even folk influences, to just hand over the credit to the pistols in place of a band like Black Flag or other late 70s and early 80s punk bands, metal bands, hard rock bands, etc. A band like even a Metallica probably had some large influence on grunge. Someone like even a Neil Young had a large influence on grunge. Too many ingredients and too many grunge bands sound different from each other even though there is a core grunge “sound” that unites them. BUT, a band like Bam Bam had that “core sound” down Pat before many other bands did. That’s not to say they were the first, they just seem just as influential as a band like the Pistols.

 

[Samori Toure]

It’s probably easier to name the shyt that hasn’t been stolen from black people and I’m not even joking

It really is. I am surprised that people are not aware that almost all of the music attributed to America, including Country and Bluegrass originated from Black people and their Blues and Gospel.

 

[NoGutsNoGLory]

A black woman also came up with the idea and script for both the Terminator and the Matrix before the studios took them. She's been trying to sue for years

John Connor and Neo are the same person...

Thats been proven false breh, she is fukking crazy.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

It really is. I am surprised that people are not aware that almost all of the music attributed to America, including Country and Bluegrass originated from Black people and their Blues and Gospel.

Slaves invented the banjo

There's literally not ONE musical genre in America that was not heavily influenced if not downright created by black folks.

Bluegrass/Americana = slaves
Gospel = slaves
Blues = the kids of slaves
Country = while people's take on the blues
Rock & Roll = black folks
Punk = black folks
Grunge = black folks
R&B = black folks
Jazz = black hippies/beatnicks
Rap = black folks
Boy Bands = black folks

The list goes on.....

 

[downtheline]

I was just about to make a thread on this in The Lounge.

It's weird how we find out about this stuff after the fact.

shytty journalism, racism in the music industry, this is insane. Was watching the same doc about Subpop Records, I think (worst of the 90”s).

Would like to see an actual interview with Bam Bam.

Unrelated, but Grunge was rock musics “death rattle”. Not too much after the end of that whole movement

 

[Spiider]

Subs...

I just watched a Vice produced documentary on the start of Grunge/Sub Pop/Cobain. There was no mention of Bam Bam.

Sidebar, what's the difference between Grunge and Punk? Only difference I hear is a "slower" tempo with Grunge...and I don't even think it's slower, it's just a different cadence.

Grunge is a fusion of punk and metal that started because people were tired of the over the top Glam/Hair meta bands that dominated the airwaves throughout the 80s. Every song was just about banging chicks and partying so grunge bands started to make music about real issues that people were dealing with and how they didn’t have much hope about the future. Punk was a little bit angrier and more uptempo like you said and had been around since the 70s

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

I thought it was Death.



But I can hear it in Bo'

Repped.

I loved this flick and 'For The Whole World To See' is fire.

Their sons' band, Rough Francis, played a couple of shows around here but I missed them both times.