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DID YOU KNOW THAT A BLACK WOMAN INVENTED GRUNGE and influenced Kurt Cobain?!

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Just Meh said: ↵

The influence of Metal on the genre is what gave those “grunge” bands those chops and musicianship that typical punk rock didn’t have. Funny enough, the most “punkish” of the big four grunge bands, was Nirvana. And they were noted for not being the best of musicians, and playing a more simplistic “shoegazy” style of music. While the more metal leaning grunge band like Alice N Chains, we’re known for their chops and musicianship and sugary harmonies between lead singer Layne Staley and lead guitarist Jerry Cantrell. Cantrell had the complex and stylistic metal licks. Same with Soundgarden lead guitarist Kim Thayill. That “soul” in Grunge came from the metal/hard rock influence over the genre. While the “attitude” aesthetic and the DIY “scene” it rose from was very punk influenced. Green River, The Melvins, Mother Love Bone, many of the “Big 4” grunge bands had previous membership in some of those aforementioned bands in that very small very close knit “punkish” Seattle scene. And then you had national bands that influenced that scene or grew around that same time period, bands like the pixies, dinosaur jr, etc. The scene was very punkish, but a lot of these guys musicianship and soul came from Metal. It varied from band to band. The harmonies and soul in this track defers greatly from anything remotely “punkish”:

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Of course they were influenced by metal. However i know Eddie Vedder was a big Michael Jackson fan, and Chris Cornell liked funk like Ohio Players, Dave Grohl liked funk too. I admittedly dont know much about Alice in Chains, they always seemed the most straight ahead "rock" to me so i never fukked with their shyt too hard.

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Art Barr said: ↵

Presses play.

Frim the first guitar rift.

Oh i will be back gotta listen to this shyt.
Seems kurt hid a band from us.
He spoke on the melvins quite extensively.
Yet,....i know these rifts play on the first sub pop record and muddy banks and incesticide. Without referring to my own collection for immediate perfect reference.
MYbe this is whom kurt spoke on.
When he would campaign for black artistry.
Plus high quality administration for black artists.

Yup.
Punk is nuffin but bands.
trying to cover roots reggae staple records.
With no real cultural standpoint.
built on knowledge of self or culture.
It is just sheer further misappropriation of black people making blues.

Art Barr
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keond said: ↵

Of course they were influenced by metal. However i know Eddie Vedder was a big Michael Jackson fan, and Chris Cornell liked funk like Ohio Players, Dave Grohl liked funk too. I admittedly dont know much about Alice in Chains, they always seemed the most straight ahead "rock" to me so i never fukked with their shyt too hard.
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Yall are right. Recently Dave Grohl said that he borrowed a lot of the drumming on Smells Like Teen Spirit/Nevermind from The Gap Band.

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That's dope, I never heard of them before

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It’s probably easier to name the shyt that hasn’t been stolen from black people and I’m not even joking

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Breh Obama said: ↵

A black woman also came up with the idea and script for both the Terminator and the Matrix before the studios took them. She's been trying to sue for years

John Connor and Neo are the same person...
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no she didn’t

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staticshock said: ↵

no she didn’t
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A FacebookNews blassic

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I should’ve known Grunge was one of our brainchildren, it makes so much sense now

Black culture really owned the fukking 90’s

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Streetcar said: ↵

Was she a rhythm guitarist that wrote the nusic ? Otherwise if she’s just a lead singer how did she “invent” a sound ?
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People are glossing over this. I'm all about giving people their just due but saying she invented Grunge is a little too much credit
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skylove4 said: ↵

It’s probably easier to name the shyt that hasn’t been stolen from black people and I’m not even joking
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From the lottery, to dozens of inventions to anything musically valid…this would be a legit thread.

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Numb Vaccine Arm said: ↵

Black people invented punk too
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It’s no wonder so many of us fukk with Nirvana (punk-oriented grunge rock).

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keond said: ↵

Yea i read about her a while back, she died broke and alone, drunk herself to death
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Wow

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skylove4 said: ↵

It’s probably easier to name the shyt that hasn’t been stolen from black people and I’m not even joking
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OH THIS...

THIS..

art barr

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staticshock said: ↵

no she didn’t
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buy all accounts..
yes... she did.
her name is:

sophia stewart.

if i remember right.
i believe she won the case definitively in a state court.

art barr

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