Diddy says that Kendrick Lamar is already at Biggie's level

[Benefited]

all the BS you typed

and Kendrick aint inspire all them nikkas, mf we live in a very heavy racial climate and thats been that way since 2012 and arguably since Obama been elected. That shyt escalated further when the Michael Brown shooting happen in 2014

Thus the increase in social commentary songs

Okay well where was them nikkas at in 2008 then? To start making that brand of unapolagetic black music,showing unapolagetically black imagery and defiance in their videos?Thats right,nowhere to be found as cacs and tea party groups were raining down racism. It's clear to me they saw the success and critical acclaim of Kendrick and decided to change up. You really going to open your big mouth and even deny Jay?Who hasnt made a song and video like Story Of OJ in his 20 year career?

 

[Benefited]

Big poppa corny
Hypnotize corny

Kendrick love is nt a classic
Swimming pool is corny

Mo money was mase song nt puffy
Mase said in angie martinez interview

Hypnotize is corny to me,That hook is almost unredeemable. Big Poppa too,a east coast cat doing gfunk is fighting an uphill battle in my eyes. I like Swimming Pools but I could see someone not liking it. Fair enough Mo Money was a Mase song,I just knew it wasn't Biggies song.

So far none of you have been able to dispute the musicality or superior content of Kendrick over Biggie.Take Kendrick out of this game and theres a void,take Biggie out and we picked right back up with Jay-Z,Jadakiss etc.

 

[Cadillac]

Okay well where was them nikkas at in 2008 then? To start making that brand of unapolagetic black music,showing unapolagetically black imagery and defiance in their videos?Thats right,nowhere to be found as cacs and tea party groups were raining down racism. It's clear to me they saw the success and critical acclaim of Kendrick and decided to change up. You really going to open your big mouth and even deny Jay?Who hasnt made a song and video like Story Of OJ in his 20 year career?

my nikka do you live in America?

because everyone knows theres a clear as day difference in the racial climate of 2008 vs the climate post-Michael Brown shooting/2014

in 2008 everyone was celebrating Obamas win and tons of people thought we were in a post-racial society.

once Trayvon Martin happened the spark began and Michael Brown shooting was the fuse to make shyt explode and the climate to be what it is now.

and Kendrick was not the first to speak up on shyt

Cole was doing it with Forest Hills drive going at Eminem

and in response to the Brown shooting you had Game make this



this came out August of 2014

as For Jay it has less to do with him jumping on Kendrick and more jumping on the OJ wave which involves talking and dissecting/analyzing OJs life which has been rampant lately

 

[Cadillac]

Hypnotize is corny to me,That hook is almost unredeemable. Big Poppa too,a east coast cat doing gfunk is fighting an uphill battle in my eyes. I like Swimming Pools but I could see someone not liking it. Fair enough Mo Money was a Mase song,I just knew it wasn't Biggies song.

So far none of you have been able to dispute the musicality or superior content of Kendrick over Biggie.Take Kendrick out of this game and theres a void,take Biggie out and we picked right back up with Jay-Z,Jadakiss etc.

tried getting @kingofnyc to entertain ya but he dont feel like it

I dont care for Biggie much to care. Had this been Pac ,Nas or Face I would be invested more tho

Ready to die >>>> Kendrick tho

 

[SirBiatch]

Hypnotize is corny to me,That hook is almost unredeemable. Big Poppa too,a east coast cat doing gfunk is fighting an uphill battle in my eyes. I like Swimming Pools but I could see someone not liking it. Fair enough Mo Money was a Mase song,I just knew it wasn't Biggies song.

So far none of you have been able to dispute the musicality or superior content of Kendrick over Biggie.Take Kendrick out of this game and theres a void,take Biggie out and we picked right back up with Jay-Z,Jadakiss etc.

at this stage, anyone forcing the idea that Kendrick is somehow on Biggie's level is an idiot and a fraud. It's really that simple. Intelligent, brilliant and legendary music speaks for itself. If you can't tell then hip hop's not your genre.

As for the latter statement, Silly and irrelevant non-argument. Take Kendrick out and we continue with J Cole, Logic, Chance, etc. All these corny young rappers who sell non-threatening moral platitude rap.

 

[DMZ]

Big Poppa-Corny,Hypnotize-Corny,Juicy-Classic with help of sample,Biggie One More Chance-Classic,Mo Money Mo Problems-A Puffy Song.

Kendrick has "bytch Don't Kill My Vibe"-Classic,Alright-classic,L.O.V.E-classic,Swimming Pools-classic

I see where Puffy is going with this,I think Biggie is the much better all around emcee. Kendrick has proven to be the better artist and technical lyricist, with much more substance,and deeper content. Kendrick is beyond Biggie in terms of levels of importance and impact on the culture. The man is changing lives and creating a positive influence,Biggie didn't create life changing music,at least nothing positive,and probably nothing demonic even.

what kinda back-handed compliment is this? if anything this would apply to Big Poppa and even that's not true, Juicy is one of hip hop's most classic songs for way more reasons than the sample.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Rap game is a work

 

[Benefited]

tried getting @kingofnyc to entertain ya but he dont feel like it

I dont care for Biggie much to care. Had this been Pac ,Nas or Face I would be invested more tho

sounds like you have a preference for nikkas with content,and cant in good conscience argue for Biggie against Kendrick.All of those artist you named I have ahead of Biggie too,Kendrick is in that stratosphere where as Biggie is not in my opinion. Legend all the same.

And I've seen his post before,its well know around here he is not exactly a bias critic. His opinion would practically be worthless as someone who has no negative criticisms about Biggie at all.

and yes I am from america,all those artist I mentioned have been around. But didn't seem to make the move until they saw Kendricks success and critical acclaim. We are not talking about records,we are talking entire projects,pro black imagery in videos, on big stage performances,as lead singles. More attention to musicality after the success of TPAB across multiple genres.

 

[Benefited]

what kinda back-handed compliment is this? if anything this would apply to Big Poppa and even that's not true, Juicy is one of hip hop's most classic songs for way more reasons than the sample.

Well I could have said it about Big Poppa and One More Chance. But those have original hooks,Juicy is practically the same beat with the hook taken from the song Juicy Fruit as well. So how can you so surely say its classic if that sample doesn't exist? Believe me I thought about taking off points for One More Chance ripping off the melody from Debarge,but I was trying to be generous because I love that song. I'm not against sampling,but points have to be taken off when comparing artist musicianship.

 

[Cadillac]

sounds like you have a preference for nikkas with content,and cant in good conscience argue for Biggie against Kendrick.All of those artist you named I have ahead of Biggie too,Kendrick is in that stratosphere where as Biggie is not in my opinion. Legend all the same.

And I've seen his post before,its well know around here he is not exactly a bias critic. His opinion would practically be worthless as someone who has no negative criticisms about Biggie at all.

and yes I am from america,all those artist I mentioned have been around. But didn't seem to make the move until they saw Kendricks success and critical acclaim. We are not talking about records,we are talking entire projects,pro black imagery in videos, on big stage performances,as lead singles. More attention to musicality after the success of TPAB across multiple genres.

@1stbolded um no just like there music its not that deep as your making it.

@2nd bolded Lol at this goalpost move, then why you mention Bey and Meek. Both of them had nothing more than 1 or 2 songs on social commentary or anything of the sort.

As for T.I has done concious songs before so its not hard to put two together that the racial issues going around influenced him plus like Kendrick he is a fan of Pac add that and you got "US".

only one you might argue for is Jay and he seems to really be influenced by the new school(but still also old school and veterans)

Plus some of those things such as imagery in videos TPAB doesnt have. So how are you crediting that to Kendrick

None of TPAB videos is exactly "pro-black". and the narrative of it being the "blackest" album really needs to die

 

[Calmye]

He put out more material then him and has more time in the game then him

 

[Trace]

This era is no excuse for kendrick's lack of quotables. He's just weak.
Biggie has more quotables on RTD than kendrick has on all his projects combined

I mean you're entitled to that opinion, but I'll tell you like I tell punchline heads (in this case quotables), that isn't the only thing that matters when evaluating an artist as a whole or their body of work. In my opinion it's just a stat like sales or technical skills in the grand scheme of consideration.

 

[African Peasant]

Nobody will care about Kendrick and his music in 20 years.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I mean you're entitled to that opinion, but I'll tell you like I tell punchline heads (in this case quotables), that isn't the only thing that matters when evaluating an artist as a whole or their body of work. In my opinion it's just a stat like sales or technical skills in the grand scheme of consideration.

I agree it's a stat.
But a very powerful one.
It shows how much your verses really touched the fans.
Many people can have hits via beats hooks or in Kendrick' s case,heavy marketing etc.
But when they remember the verses,not just the hooks .
The rapper has really made an impact on the listeners

 

[Trace]

I agree it's a stat.
But a very powerful one.
It shows how much your verses really touched the fans.
Many people can have hits via beats hooks or in Kendrick' s case,heavy marketing etc.
But when they remember the verses,not just the hooks .
The rapper has really made an impact on the listeners

I can respect the viewpoint.