Didn't kno Timbo samples a lot

[Black_Jesus]

Nah I respect hip hop as an art form. As a child kids use coloring books with the lines already drawn for them. As you grow up you learn to draw and you make those lines on your own. Those of us who are hip-hop purists such as myself want to see pure art coming from these "creative" people in the game. Stop coloring inside the next man's lines and create your own picture. Who respects the art form more? The one who lets the fake chit slide? Or the one who seeks accountability and authenticity? Come on son.

U sir.. Are no hip hop purist. and for you to imply Timb lacks creativity because he built a beat around a sample only proves you have no.idea what the fukk you're talking about.. I doubt you have any clue what it takes to make a beat, mix and master a beat, or compose music. You're not qualified to speak on th subject

 

[Smile Gang]

U sir.. Are no hip hop purist. and for you to imply Timb lacks creativity because he built a beat around a sample only proves you have no.idea what the fukk you're talking about.. I doubt you have any clue what it takes to make a beat, mix and master a beat, or compose music. You're not qualified to speak on th subject

And you say this based on knowing zero about me.

Good job man.

 

[NotNxrmal]

at you idiots trying to come up with analogies to sampling. it's not just like stealing a comedians jokes

so tell me this all you "play your own shyt" elistists - if someone does a cover song (or an album FULL of covers which has happenned lots of times) then that's just as bad or worse than sampling is it not? all these bands that use the same 3 chords in every damn song, use the same chord progressions, take ideas from a classic band or album. how is that original?

Exactly. ALL MUSIC is influenced by what came before it, at least aesthetically if not the actual chords and tones and shyt. The only difference between genres that don't sample and ones that do is that samplers use previously recorded material as the building blocks.

I'd argue that someone doing a typical 12 bar blues song is a lot less creative and musical than your typical sample chop.

 

[Won Won]

smh @ people still arguing with Wacky D Alias #6

 

[Tom Foolery]

smh @ people still arguing with Wacky D Alias #6

I swear, The Booth has one dude with 7 accounts made just to argue.

 

[Smile Gang]

Just joined yesterday. This is my one and only account and the first thread I ever posted in. I come in peace yet I had to be honest about how this video made me feel. shyt was bad enough to make me sign up for this site and I don't do forums and shyt I usually read-only.

 

[Black_Jesus]

And you say this based on knowing zero about me.

Good job man.

That's right


I say this based off your posts claiming to be a hiphop purist yet knock. producers for flipping samples, which is what created hiphop in the first place..... You don't know what the fukk you're talking about and you exposed yourself.. You should just stop posting in this thread

 

[Reverend Jesse Jackson]

I already said I am cool with using samples of sounds. Samples of sounds are different from samples of multiple notes, which at that point are compositions.

And, I think that DJ Mustard shyt is trash. No disrespect to him or his fans but those beats are terrible.

The thing about 9th Wonder is as soon as that song comes on, no later than 0:001 second into it, I'm already listening to some sped up sample of somebody else's music. He doesn't even wait 2 seconds to develop anything on his own it's just "Let's get right to the swindle."

Not only that, but the 9th Wonder example is just plainly unpleasing to the ear. It's blatantly obvious that it's just an attempt to throw together various chopped up pieces of real songs and put an out of whack drum beat behind them to the best of his ability. The shyt doesn't play like a song it sounds like a compilation of 4 second pieces.

Lastly, it's way different to have a brass patch in Logic and play a melody with it than to start a song right out the break with some soul shyt sped up. The two aren't comparable. And yes, I consider using the pre-created loops in Logic to be cheesy too.

Please tell me the Beatles and Michael Jackson are not musicians because they sampled:

The Beatles's Sample-Based Music | WhoSampled
Michael Jackson's Sample-Based Music | WhoSampled

 

[Smile Gang]

That's right


I say this based off your posts claiming to be a hiphop purist yet knock. producers for flipping samples, which is what created hiphop in the first place..... You don't know what the fukk you're talking about and you exposed yourself.. You should just stop posting in this thread

I've acknowledged at least half a dozen times in this thread the fact that sampling was originally a prominent element of hip-hop and that it's still prominent.

The fact that early producers leaned so heavily on intellectual property theft does not make that theft any more palatable today.

Look, the game of basketball used to be played on peach baskets. We got rims and shyt now. The average NBA player used to be 5'10 with a 16" vertical. Today we have LeBron and Kobe and shyt.

I pay homage to all the pioneers and all that good shyt but the fact is the genre is more advanced today and there are dudes talented enough to create real original music. That being said, there is no excuse to perpetuate the sample bullshyt in today's production. It's a crutch we no longer need.

It's time for those who truly care about the genre to draw a line in the sand and enforce responsibility with regard to the craft. That's my opinion.

 

[Smile Gang]

Please tell me the Beatles and Michael Jackson are not musicians because they sampled:

The Beatles's Sample-Based Music | WhoSampled
Michael Jackson's Sample-Based Music | WhoSampled

I'm really not an expert on classic rock or the Beatles like that to comment on their discography to the extent that I'm familiar with Timbaland's work.

That being said, looking at that list they have less listed samples used than Timbaland. Also, among the samples used there are many instances where they are sampling their own previous works.

Obviously if Timbaland had gotten the melody for Big Pimpin by sampling a previous Timbaland recording I wouldn't think of it as an inauthentic hit.

You guys are obviously attempting to make arguments based on emotions that don't really fall in synch with logic. You want sampling to be acceptable to me so bad that you're putting forth garbage rationales. If you sample and it feels real right to you, do you. Everybody doesn't have to respect it. Same way everybody wouldn't say Hulk Hogan was an athlete. If he was an athlete to him fukk it. Don't let me rain on Hulk's parade.

 

[Danie84]

Listening to Aaliyah shuffle on the train, I'm still those are samples.

All this time I thought Timbo was a mastermind with the keyboards

 

[spliz]

This had the potential to be an ill thread but this shyt turned garbage real quick...

 

[Smile Gang]

Listening to Aaliyah shuffle on the train, I'm still those are samples. All this time I thought was a mastermind with the keyboards

Me too breh...

Timbaland was my nikka hate it had to be him

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

This is what I been tryna tell these nikkas...how u gonna shyt on that and then turn around and say u respect hip hop...all while saying that is why hip hop isnt respected as an artform...no nikka..YOU dont respect it as an artform...thats the truth of it...

i dont have any problem with producers who sample

i have a problem when they try not to admit it and give credit/compensation

u cant take somebody's else work,make your own,make millions and call it a day

 

[spliz]

i dont have any problem with producers who sample

i have a problem when they try not to admit it and give credit/compensation

u cant take somebody's else work,make your own,make millions and call it a day

U right as hell about that...