Dirk passes Garnett on all-time scoring list (14th)

[Goatpoacher]

Looking at strictly nuimbers in the nba isnt wise theyres guys who put up scoring numbers and you know can never be guys who could be a first option on a title team

Anyone with eyes knows KG never had Dirks offensive arsenal,what he did in 2011 with guys like Terry as his sidekick was insane and something KG wasnt capable of,its not a knock po KG it just wasnt his game to carry a tema offneisvley o na legendary levle lie kdirk did in 2011

Youre rigth about the free throws but Dirk also hit an amazing fadeway at the end of game 5 that shold have been a game winner if not for Bennet Salvatore/Wade mvp combo

I agree numbers alone are not a full measure of productivity. BUt that just supports the KG > Dirk argument. KG even in his superstar years used to do alot of dirty work like setting screen in the back court, playing point forward. Let's not even discuss his impact as a team defender.

YOu can say Dirk took a team of scrubs to the finals in 2011, but he also lost even when he was surrounded by talent.

 

[Texas2step]

At their best, give me Dirk easily over Garnotwinaplayoffseriesuntilplayingwithhof

 

[Goatpoacher]

Because KG's entire career in Minny was losing in the first rd aside from 2004.

That had nothing to do with Joe Smith and the wolves general incompetence?

KG lost to better teams. DIrk lost to worse teams.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Gasol for the most part was unstoppable in the playoffs until he faced the Celtics in the Finals.

i'm sure nikkaz like you would be like "that that was just coincidence"

and the next year game 7 Gasol dominated the 4th quarter of the game especially on the boards and won it for them

 

[ManBearPig]

How was he better? Ray Allen in 07' averaged 26/4/4 on his own team. The only reason his numbers went down in 08' was because he was jointing a team with 2 all nba players. And Pierce was clearly better then Finley.

Even then they were playing in a joke of a conference while Dirk was playing in a stacked west. The East had under 500 teams making the playoffs. The celtics in 08' faced a 37 win Hawks team in rd one and a 45 win Cavs teams with lebron and bums I the 2nd rd.

It's no contest. The Mavs would be better on D with KG, but they wouldn't be as good on offense because He is no Dirk. He simply can't score or command the attention on defense that Dirk does.

Ray Allen was coming back from having ankle surgery on both ankles.

Ray Allen only played 56 games in 2007 and his team was competely ass and stuggled the most in the playoffs from the BIg 3. You didn't really think all in his 2008 was as good as he was before the anking surgeries?

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

If I need scoring then I'm picking Dirk. If I need defense and rebounding then I'm picking KG. It depends on what you need really

 

[Goatpoacher]

Project for everybody posting in here:

Rate the following PF's on a scale from 1 to 100

1. Charles Barkley
2. Karl Malone
3. Tim Duncan
4. Dirk
5. KG

 

[Street Knowledge]

Ray Allen was coming back from having ankle surgery on both ankles.

Ray Allen only played 56 games in 2007 and his team was competely ass and stuggled the most in the playoffs from the BIg 3. You didn't really think all in his 2008 was as good as he was before the anking surgeries?

But Again how does that make nash clearly better when Allen was good in 2008?

That Was my question. I'm not saying there isn't an argument for Nash, but your acting like it's not even close which is crazy.

And again your ignoring the difference in conference competetion.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

duncan cant carry a team
dirk has longevity, how duncan doin this year?

You gotta be under the age of 25.....The bolded might be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, not just in the coliseum, but any forum on this site..

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

I agree numbers alone are not a full measure of productivity. BUt that just supports the KG > Dirk argument. KG even in his superstar years used to do alot of dirty work like setting screen in the back court, playing point forward. Let's not even discuss his impact as a team defender.

YOu can say Dirk took a team of scrubs to the finals in 2011, but he also lost even when he was surrounded by talent.

Those mavs of the mid 2000's had more talent but were terrible on defense[which yes i know was Dirks wekaness also] I personally wold take Dirk because in the nba playoffs the most important thing is having a go to superstar you need a guy who can be #1 option on a title team and go apeshyt offensively and score on anyone theyres not many players in the league now or in the history of the league that could do that Dirk was one of em so his skillset was more valauble imo

It also depedns on the team,if i had a team with guys who could carry the offensive load like the Celtics did where KG didnt have to be the go to guy KG is a better fit if i had a team like the 2001 Mavs that needed a guy to carry the load offneisvely every night im taking Dirk by far i think thats fair no?

 

[Walt]

Kg stans were trying to revive the completely ludicrous debate re: Duncan a season ago, which was just sad. And now it has become legitimately arguable that Dirk is the player you'd choose over KG too. Powerful.

 

[Boolean]

only thing that chart shows me is that if KG was able to shoot 3 pointers this wouldn't be close

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Oh and dont bring Duncan into this hes better then both of em,only tremont is biased enough to think KG''s better then Duncan

 

[BigE214]

Let's not act like KG did something when he had Spree, Cassell, Wally, Hudson. Cried for a team, got one and did nothing.

at getting passed on the scoring list while you're still active. Niggga averaging like 8 per

Dirk fucc around and be in the top 10 before season ends

 

[Goatpoacher]

Those mavs of the mid 2000's had more talent but were terrible on defense[which yes i know was Dirks wekaness also] I personally wold take Dirk because in the nba playoffs the most important thing is having a go to superstar you need a guy who can be #1 option on a title team and go apeshyt offensively and score on anyone theyres not many players in the league now or in the history of the league that could do that Dirk was one of em so his skillset was more valauble imo

It also depedns on the team,if i had a team with guys who could carry the offensive load like the Celtics did where KG didnt have to be the go to guy KG is a better fit if i had a team like the 2001 Mavs that needed a guy to carry the load offneisvely every night im taking Dirk by far i think thats fair no?

I can agree in general with this post. But I think more teams need a KG than a Dirk. KG's prime is unfortunately tarnished by the wolves stupidity. Few people remember that KG was the only player who could slow down kobe and tmac in the early 2000's.