01 team had Nash and Finley, put a KG that averages 21/12/1/2(He turned it up to 24/19 in the playoffs) on a team with Finley averaging 20, and Nash averaging 18/7. Keep in mind Dirk only averaged 23 that year. You telling me you wouldn't take the hit offensively for a major defensive upgrade?
Dirk passes Garnett on all-time scoring list (14th)
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01 team had Nash and Finley, put a KG that averages 21/12/1/2(He turned it up to 24/19 in the playoffs) on a team with Finley averaging 20, and Nash averaging 18/7. Keep in mind Dirk only averaged 23 that year. You telling me you wouldn't take the hit offensively for a major defensive upgrade?
Chrishaune
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I like Dirk's game....he's worked hard.
ManBearPig
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The problem is that KG had 2 teammates who averaged over 20 in the 02' First rd and still couldn't win a game.
They lost because they couldn't stop dirk and company. Where was KG 's defensive impact?
They lost because they couldn't stop dirk and company. Where was KG 's defensive impact?
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Sorry im typing on the phone i meant to type 2011 the year they won the title
Goatpoacher
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KG guarded Finley?
Except basketball has never and will never work like that. You can't just add KG to the Mavs in '01 and expect the numbers to transfer across the boards. You add KG and the offense changes in such a way that Nash and Finley's numbers might go down because the flow of the offense would change based on KG's game. Dirk creates mismathces on the offensive side of the ball, opens up lanes and changes spacing in a way KG never could. I completely reject the idea that the difference on the offensive side between Dirk and KG is negligible, while the difference on the defensive side is a chasm. You can't judge offense by comparing 24 points to 21 and deciding that those 3 points don't matter much. KG is simply not even fukking close to dirk's level as a offensive genius.
Dirk flamed out once to an 8 seed, but just about every other playoff loss was to a very good team, even when the Mavs were seeded higher, in a tough Western conference where seeds 1-5 were all capable of making runs to the conference finals depending on who they matched up with in the playoffs. Dirk also - come rain or shine - made Dallas good for 50-60 wins every year for a decade. In that sense, he was Tim Duncan lite. And KG doesn't have that to his credit. KG was done no favors by the Minny front office, but that still doesn't completely excuse all those years of not even making the playoffs.
Dirk won a championship against 3 future hall of famers including a guy who will be in the conversation for GOAT and another who will be in the conversation for top 5-7 shooting guards of all of all time, and he did it with old and spare parts. J. Kidd put up 8 & 8, shot 36%, and couldn't keep any guards in front of him on D. JJ Barea can barely contribute to the Wolves, and he was a significant part of that Mavs squad. Dirk's championship run was quite clearly and simply one of the most awesome runs a superstar has had.
I agree with @Malta - you can easily build around Dirk. KG is the ultimate player to add to a team. Also, Dirk's skillset isn't one that falls off a cliff with age. While Struggle knees is shooting 35% and stinking it up in Brooklyn, Dirk is putting up 21 a game on 47% shooting, still. That's remarkable.
Dirk flamed out once to an 8 seed, but just about every other playoff loss was to a very good team, even when the Mavs were seeded higher, in a tough Western conference where seeds 1-5 were all capable of making runs to the conference finals depending on who they matched up with in the playoffs. Dirk also - come rain or shine - made Dallas good for 50-60 wins every year for a decade. In that sense, he was Tim Duncan lite. And KG doesn't have that to his credit. KG was done no favors by the Minny front office, but that still doesn't completely excuse all those years of not even making the playoffs.
Dirk won a championship against 3 future hall of famers including a guy who will be in the conversation for GOAT and another who will be in the conversation for top 5-7 shooting guards of all of all time, and he did it with old and spare parts. J. Kidd put up 8 & 8, shot 36%, and couldn't keep any guards in front of him on D. JJ Barea can barely contribute to the Wolves, and he was a significant part of that Mavs squad. Dirk's championship run was quite clearly and simply one of the most awesome runs a superstar has had.
I agree with @Malta - you can easily build around Dirk. KG is the ultimate player to add to a team. Also, Dirk's skillset isn't one that falls off a cliff with age. While Struggle knees is shooting 35% and stinking it up in Brooklyn, Dirk is putting up 21 a game on 47% shooting, still. That's remarkable.
Goatpoacher
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I'll admit that DIrk's post prime career is better than KG's. But you are letting the present cloud what was actually true. IN their primes, KG was the better player. In their prime, KG was right below TD whereas Dirk was trading places with Chris Webber and Antonio McDyess.
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Field Marshall Bradley
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That Dallas team was an offensive juggernaut and Flip was just getting his feet wet in coaching for real......Donnie gave him that work...Plain and Simple
Field Marshall Bradley
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He won it with Speedy Claxton and Avery Johnson......
I said...Speedy Claxton & Avery Johnson
I don't remember any memorable playoff game kg has ever had
Kg is not a number 1 scoring option. Dirk was avg 9 boards a game in 2003. Two less a game than Garnett. Put Garnett on the Mavs and teams will focus more on Finley. Nash wasn't a scorer til he got to Phoenix
Goatpoacher
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You also don't remember complete collapses to inferior teams like the mavs in 2006 and 2007.
