Do Average Men Understand WHY Women Put Them On Child Support?

[Matt504]

That;s really common sense though, we know black folks will get the least from the government. We should be more united though instead of bashing but that's the issue with matriarchy in a nutshell, we gotta get each others attention.

What would change in a patriarchal Black community?

 

[Scott Larock]

What would change in a patriarchal Black community?

1. Respect

Unless you wanna debate me how that's a bad thing.

 

[Matt504]

1. Respect

Unless you wanna debate me how that's a bad thing.

1. Respect for whom?

2. who's being disrespected?

3. Who's being disrespectful?

 

[Scott Larock]

1. Respect for whom?

1. Men

2. who's being disrespected?

3. Who's being disrespectful?

Not trying to be mean you may be in a different situation but the reality is the community is the way it is due to lack of respect. Not every man has to be very educated and financially stable to demand respect from his peers and his women. Women do what they want because they know it's no consequence for their actions hence the high out of wedlock rates along with the disrespect many black men face, hence the reason you buy 300 dollar shoes instead of using it to invest but it's mostly due to the lack of the community and the resources the community can provide for it's people.

In all actuality if I'm a "loser" in real life, I shouldn't even be seen outside of my community, my community should have the resources to hide me from outsiders, you don't see broken asian cats in corporate america, you only see educated Asian cats in corporate america, the broke Asians (the old dudes delivering Chinese to your door arent seen by the masses since the Asian community has the resources (jobs) to hide them from the outside world.

Seeing men on a lower level in a mass scale affects the minds of the women in that community, the result is one of competition instead of one based on the need and importance of being with a man.

So you see what makes "black america", black america.

Guys like you cannot relate to being in a position of disrespect as a man so you tend to take the mindset of the women and the blm movement which is based more on a intangible asset rather than what is considered tangible. For example love and caring is intagible and money and resources are tangible.

In your mind the man has to step up to the plate to do his job when he doesn't have a community to fall back on so everything goes through white people which they still create the rules we have to follow.

 

[Matt504]

Not trying to be mean you may be in a different situation but the reality is the community is the way it is due to lack of respect. Not every man has to be very educated and financially stable to demand respect from his peers and his women. Women do what they want because they know it's no consequence for their actions hence the high out of wedlock rates along with the disrespect many black men face, hence the reason you buy 300 dollar shoes instead of using it to invest but it's mostly due to the lack of the community and the resources the community can provide for it's people.

In all actuality if I'm a "loser" in real life, I shouldn't even be seen outside of my community, my community should have the resources to hide me from outsiders, you don't see broken asian cats in corporate america, you only see educated Asian cats in corporate america, the broke Asians (the old dudes delivering Chinese to your door arent seen by the masses since the Asian community has the resources (jobs) to hide them from the outside world.

Seeing men on a lower level in a mass scale affects the minds of the women in that community, the result is one of competition instead of one based on the need and importance of being with a man.

So you see what makes "black america", black america.

Guys like you cannot relate to being in a position of disrespect as a man so you tend to take the mindset of the women and the blm movement which is based more on a intangible asset rather than what is considered tangible. For example love and caring is intagible and money and resources are tangible.

In your mind the man has to step up to the plate to do his job when he doesn't have a community to fall back on so everything goes through white people which they still create the rules we have to follow.

This is a ton of poorly thought out conjecture, the community is in the state it's in because of systematic white supremacy, not a lack of respect.

 

[KOohbt]

FOR CONSISTENCY.



Before we start this, I'm not talking about rich men like Diddy or Jayz.



I'm talking about regular men, who work regular 9-5 jobs (or don't work) who have children by women who are regular, and work 9-5 jobs too.

(You can't really "come up" off a man like this)

For most women with children by AVERAGE men, child support and court orders is their last resort with a man they cannot communicate with, or gain consistency from.



Example...


*The man Commits to a financial obligation (like buying the child a pair of shoes for school, or bringing diapers)

Then...
- Don't show up.
-curse the mother out anytime she ask for something.
-Shows up with HALF of what he promised.
-simply won't answer his phone when the mother calls out of fear she will ask for help.


HE'S NOT DEPENDABLE.



*He Commits to Keeping the child for a certain period of time.


Then...
-He Won't show up
-He keeps the child longer.
-bring the child back sooner.
-Or try to take the child on a weekend, or at a time when the mother has already made other plans with the child.




All of these things create stress/confusion for the mother who HAS to have a physical and financial routine in order to be the child's primary care giver.





Too many AVERAGE men seem to think baby mothers file child support for a check, or money to get their hair done. This is ridiculous.


Most women file for child support from AVERAGE men, not for a come up, but because the father is inconsistent, not dependable, and she is just flat out exhausted with arguing with him, and begging him for help.


It's a relief to let the judge set the child support and visitation. So she won't have to argue with him anymore. Even if the judge sets less than what she thought was fair. (I have seen this)


Men get very resentful after this. Why?

Becuase they need help from the state because they couldn't pick a proper mate.

 

[Scott Larock]

This is a ton of poorly thought out conjecture, the community is in the state it's in because of systematic white supremacy, not a lack of respect.

white people won't and will never respect you don't know why you feel otherwise, maybe if they create more6 figure job, you dudes will grab them up and live happily ever after. I don't think so. white people will do them, 50 years from now your grandkids will be having the same issues you have now, nothing will change, you will get money, leave the community and hug cacs and those who are stuck and living rough will continue to struggle.

 

[Matt504]

Becuase they need help from the state because they couldn't pick a proper mate.

What percentage of the population of Black males would you guesstimate are "proper" mates considering the disproportionate amount of Black children in homes without fathers?

 

[Matt504]

white people won't and will never respect you don't know why you feel otherwise, maybe if they create more6 figure job, you dudes will grab them up and live happily ever after. I don't think so. white people will do them, 50 years from now your grandkids will be having the same issues you have now, nothing will change, you will get money, leave the community and hug cacs and those who are stuck and living rough will continue to struggle.

I don't expect white people to do anything different than what they've always done, that doesn't change the fact that White supremacy is the root cause of the problems that plague our community, not disrespect for Black men.

 

[KOohbt]

What percentage of the population of Black males would you guesstimate are "proper" mates considering the disproportionate amount of Black children in homes without fathers?

I couldn't. But my post is a fact. Keep the psuedo feminism to yourself, breh. Be objective for a second.

 

[Scott Larock]

What percentage of the population of Black males would you guesstimate are "proper" mates considering the disproportionate amount of Black children in homes without fathers?

1. What do you consider the "proper mate"

I think that's the first thing you should answer.

2. What do you expect "white supremacy" to do or fix in order for our issues to go away?

I don't expect white people to do anything and I don't expect black men to suddenly become great fathers, I do expect a community being built so these men can find better use of their time. When you're a grown man seeking attention from women, problems will arise, historically white america didn't have issues with women until equality and intergration became the norm.

It's not going to be a problem that will ever being solved on a large scale, women are able to do things the older generation could only dream off, issues will arise.. our issues are out of wack, it happens too often, moreso it's a lack of respect of the basics of the importance of a man and alot of these men are in a position where they seek and that will always cause issues.

 

[Matt504]

I couldn't. But my post is a fact. Keep the psuedo feminism to yourself, breh. Be objective for a second.

My question has noting to do with feminism I'm asking about the size of the pool of "proper" mates Black women have available to choose from.

 

[KOohbt]

My question has noting to do with feminism I'm asking about the size of the pool of "proper" mates Black women have available to choose from.

Why are you asking me that?

 

[Matt504]

1. What do you consider the "proper mate"

I think that's the first thing you should answer.

2. What do you expect "white supremacy" to do or fix in order for our issues to go away?

I don't expect white people to do anything and I don't expect black men to suddenly become great fathers, I do expect a community being built so these men can find better use of their time. When you're a grown man seeking attention from women, problems will arise, historically white america didn't have issues with women until equality and intergration became the norm.

It's not going to be a problem that will ever being solved on a large scale, women are able to do things the older generation could only dream off, issues will arise.. our issues are out of wack, it happens too often, moreso it's a lack of respect of the basics of the importance of a man and alot of these men are in a position where they seek and that will always cause issues.

"proper mate" is a phrase another person used so I think the onus is on them to define exactly what that means.

I don't expect white people to do anything to repair or improve our condition.

Disrespect for Black men is not what has destroyed our communities.

 

[Matt504]

Why are you asking me that?

Because I'm interested in your opinion, that's why I asked for your guesstimate of the number of "proper" mates, Black women have to choose from.