LuckyLibra619
Banned
So are these women being forced to be in these videos? And once again, if these women haven't said or implied they felt degraded or objectified, why do you care?
Do black men oppress black women?
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So are these women being forced to be in these videos? And once again, if these women haven't said or implied they felt degraded or objectified, why do you care?
PartyHeart
All Star
They do. Again, what are you talking about or are you just making things up?
The question as to why I care is because hip hop is not something that Black men and men alone created. To push Black women out and say you will either be represented as hoes who we can degrade or you won't represented at all is a problem.
The biological difference that white men have over black men is that
White genes are recessive therefore white people have to protect their recessive genes by swindling stealing killing and double crossing people of color all over the planet
They believe that resources are scarce therefore they have hoarded them
Black people due to having dominant genes think in terms of abundance thetefore dont have the agenda to dominate everyones resources
Because there genetic survival is not dependent on everyone elses oppresion
@PartyHeart
So if you think that scarcity mentality is the superior mentality thats your opinion but if you want to go there we can
I guess thats the inherent difference but i dont think its a weakness per se
But it is why blacks didnt go out and steal everything when we had the chance
White genes are recessive therefore white people have to protect their recessive genes by swindling stealing killing and double crossing people of color all over the planet
They believe that resources are scarce therefore they have hoarded them
Black people due to having dominant genes think in terms of abundance thetefore dont have the agenda to dominate everyones resources
Because there genetic survival is not dependent on everyone elses oppresion
@PartyHeart
So if you think that scarcity mentality is the superior mentality thats your opinion but if you want to go there we can
I guess thats the inherent difference but i dont think its a weakness per se
But it is why blacks didnt go out and steal everything when we had the chance
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Whites only rule temporarily given their population and support from Europe. Blacks ruled the world in Egypt for a time, Arabs had the upperhand at times with the Ottoman Empire, etc. Men's rule over another is a changing thing, which is why whites put so much stake into their weaponry, armies, etc, the tools which allow them to maintain their rule at the threat of black, Asian, Arab, etc men. What isn't variable or changing is women's subservience to men. That is stable and factual everywhere.
Of course they were. Ancient Egyptian murals show men fighting and building, not women.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Rap music depicts black men in less-than-satisfactory ways, and even meaner and more destructive ways, and it's not "oppressive" to us, so it cannot be oppressive to you unless you make it so.
Mc lyte
Queen latifah
Lauryn hill
Didnt have these problems
You ladies love nicki minaj though why did yall support her?
She is degrading herself so its cool
There have several women in hip hop that had respectable images
Try again
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
I think some black men are very power crazed....and crave world wide admiration...
This is unsettling...because some black men will degrade and denounce black women in order to gain validation..
Its like some black men are more concerned with being popular than anything else....
I notice some black men will even point the finger at us to get the attention off of them....as if to place themselves with other ethnicities...and place all the problems and issues on black women...
I don't know what to say about the men who do this...i honestly don't....cause no words can describe such cowardice....
This is unsettling...because some black men will degrade and denounce black women in order to gain validation..
Its like some black men are more concerned with being popular than anything else....
I notice some black men will even point the finger at us to get the attention off of them....as if to place themselves with other ethnicities...and place all the problems and issues on black women...
I don't know what to say about the men who do this...i honestly don't....cause no words can describe such cowardice....
i mean, rap was LARGELY created by black men
most female rappers suck and will never taken serious. i-is that mysogonior?
@WHIPPEDCream
why are BW oppressing themselves? didn't beyonce tell you bytches to bowdown not too long ago?
PartyHeart
All Star
No, no. Your argument is that domination over a period of time means genetic inferiority. That's why you say women have God to blame for men's oppression, because God made men genetically superior. These are your words. I asked you then, what are the biological and chemical advantages white men have over Black men that allow them to dominate you so thoroughly?
What you've mentioned here is a trait that'd be considered inferior of white men, not superior. And that would actually reflect on Black men even worse wouldn't it, that genetically inferior men are dominating you so?
These are literally horrible examples. All those women have songs about Black men subjugating women. And I have never said that Black women cannot contribute to misogyny, just as I know Black people can contribute to white supremacy.
LuckyLibra619
Banned
If they haven't said so then how would you know?
If a Rapper has a video filled with Non-Black women I've never seen BW saying "Stop degrading those Non-Black Women!". Most of the time the critique is "Why aren't there any sistas in the video?
"If a Rapper has tons of Black Women in his video, he's degrading them. If he doesn't have any in his video that is also a problem. Pathetic.
there's really no evidence for this. especially considering BW are the first and foremost to remind us that we are powerless.
see how easy that could be flipped and remain a true statement.
see how easy that could be flipped and remain a true statement.
see how easy that could be flipped and remain a true statement.
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
I answered your question. Please refer to my last reply.
The answer is that no one is being oppressed by rap music. Does it set a bad example and is it counterproductive to proper civil black society? Yes. But it is not oppression for black men or black women.
PartyHeart
All Star
If they haven't said so then how would you know?
If a Rapper has a video filled with Non-Black women I've never seen BW saying "Stop degrading those Non-Black Women!". Most of the time the critique is "Why aren't there any sistas in the video?
If a Rapper has tons of Black Women in his video, he's degrading them. If he doesn't have any in his video that is also a problem. Pathetic.
You have changed your argument several times. First you said they aren't complaining about being degraded, I told you they are. This is not shocking because all people, women included, don't like being degraded. Now you're asking me why aren't Black women complaining on behalf of non-Black women.
On top of that you have still not answered the question. Why does a Black man need to degrade any woman in his videos? What would you consider Black women telling Black men you have to be a toe tapping sambo that plays into all your negative stereotypes in order to be on the medium I control, and if you refuse I'll exclude you entirely. Would Black men saying there's something wrong with being presented those options be pathetic?