Do black people who are against “Cancel Culture” know they’re falling into a trap?

[8WON6]

as far as black people go, we just need to get on code and learn to let some of this shyt go when a black celeb makes mistake. Example: the weak shyt DaBaby said. Black folks need to learn to let whatever he said go and to have his back. Had people like Qwest Love out here helping string dude up for the lynching on "we need to do better" goofy shyt. And the reason we need to learn to let shyt go is because you never know when it'll be your turn having your words be twisted and you need people to have your back.

Of course, there are the R. Kelly's of the world, but that's so far over the line it's indefensible, but if its something like when Desean Jackson messed up and spoke about one of these "untouchable" groups, other black people need to learn to let that shyt go and don't help these other groups. If they have an issue with a black person usually they need other black folks (c00ns) to give them a green light.

 

[Black Hans]

Cancel culture harms black ppl more than anybody because we don't have the resources or network to recover when we get 'canceled' cacs just move to a new job and lay low.

"Cancel culture" started with black people, though Pretty sure the term came from black people, especially black women, saying someone is cancelled for doing or saying something foul. Cancelled meant not only not supporting them, but going after those who do via boycotts and divestments. White people just co-opted like they always do and turned it into something worse. Same thing with "woke".

 

[buzzkill]

my other issue with cancel culture is what is the end game? Yeah you might get some racist, homophobes, misogynist out the paint but at what cost? We're going to get rid of independent thought? Someone is perpetually offended by everything. Look at all the fat chicks mad at Adele for losing weight. What happens when they start taking down old albums, movies etc for saying the word "f*ggot"?

 

[Koba St]

I support cancel culture, wholeheartedly. Time to separate wheat from chaff.

 

[Black Hans]

Cancel culture took what was a good at first and corrupted it by taking it to incredulous extremes. Yes black folks don't approve of anybody using the n word. We don't appreciate racial humor at our own expense.
You know what used to do about it? Boo them, stop going to their shows. that was it, We never marched, protested, or boycotted people over bad words. We marched, protested or boycotted people over Murder, Discriminatory Housing, Racist Bus systems. Actual crimes, not just shyt that could be solved by simply changing the channel.
They are diluting activism and inflating every issue is if it is just as important as voting rights or safe drinking water.


Moreover the way cancel culture works now, they aren't just punishing the culprit, they are also trying to punish all of the fans of them too. You and people like you never watching another Dave Chappelle special again is one thing. and if you have enough like minded people they will start to feel that in their pockets and make changes. But thats not enough for cancel culture,now they are forcing everyone else to participate in their boycott by trying to have it removed. What if i still want to watch his shyt? I didn't agree to joining your boycott? I don't do anything offensive either why am i being pulled into it. Imagine if during the Montgomery bus boycott instead of black folk voluntarily walking, they instead stood at every bus stop and tried to stop anybody from getting on. and beat up anybody that did. thats what they are doing.

@ the bolded.

 

[Antwon Mitchell]

Cancel culture affects cacs more than it does Black ppl...

I'm not sure where the notion that Black folks are suffering more from being “canceled” came from when shyt on average there are more cacs getting canceled by the week...when it happens to us it just seems to be magnified (put on the spotlight) more than it does cacs but we created the phrase “cancel culture” until it got hijacked by hipsters, etc.

 

[Will Ross]

Black People created and benefit from “Cancel Culture.” It was coopted by other groups before becoming mainstream but that does not disqualify our contributions or influence.

Cancel Culture does more for white suprmacy than anything in recent history.

 

[Will Ross]

Cancel culture affects cacs more than it does Black ppl...

I'm not sure where the notion that Black folks are suffering more from being “canceled” came from when shyt on average there are more cacs getting canceled by the week...when it happens to us it just seems to be magnified (put on the spotlight) more than it does cacs but we created the term cancel culture until it got hijacked by hipsters, etc.

No it does not because white people have multiple networks to tap into.

 

[Stone]

Two huge problems with “cancel culture”:

1. It’s not and never will be applied evenly. There’s no standard practice.

2. it allows the most extreme among us to control the discourse.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

This is why Black folks don't fukk with the mainstream media, "Liberal" or otherwise as much. Especially younger Black folks.

They are very hypocritical and do a lot of "VIRTUE SIGNALLING" (yes I said it because that is a thing with these media types).

We've watched for 4 -5 years straight these News channels crying about how Trump was a sexist and sexual predator. Meanwhile some of those same people have their own history of abuse and bad behavior. Prime examples Chris Cuomo, Charlie Rose, Matt Lauer, Michael Avenatti (who the #Resist Neoliberals tried to push as a potential Presidential candidate) lol.

CNN/MSNBC says believe all women, except the women who accuse Bill Clinton and Joe Biden of assault
These fake ass #MeToo activists. They quickly turned to attacking Black men when they couldn't take down the top white guys. They got Harvey eventually.

Black folks been a victim of cancel culture before "cancel culture" officially became cancel culture. Black folks need to stop being on liberals or conservatives side. We need to be on our own motherfukking side.

I say hold all people accountable for their bad actions but you got to be CONSISTENT. People are innocent until PROVEN guilty, not just the people you like.

The Harvey Weinstein shyt is a bit disingenous as well since the media knew or heard rumbling for years about his antics and how he operated yet they turned a blind eye to it until the #MeToo movement. You had people on the Frontline documentary talking about Harvey and they flat out stated that they got paid off by his team to keep quiet about it or received dirt on other celebs instead.

Even the Time's Up organization was proven to be a hypocritical sham as it was being funded by and influenced by the exact same people that the Time's Up movement was trying to take down.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

arguments are allowed to have nuance. now every situation requires the same solution. if you think that's hypocritical you are the problem, not me.

If you say so breh

Like I said, keep that same consistency when someone is said or done that offends you or that you aren't a fan of. Follow the same MAGA logic that you're using as a defense.

 

[Yinny]

The only problem I have with your notion is that it's a bit disingenuous to cancel something these days that you helped cheer on and promote years ago. It's why I have an issue with the media doing certain stories about "cancel culture" because they played a part in what transpired as well. You can even add the Trump situation to that example as well.

A lot of people would rather have revisionist history about the part that they played than accept any blame and responsibility for said actions.

It’s not because it’s perfectly fine to update views and say what we once thought was okay is not anymore. My personal thoughts aside I don’t have an issue with a society updating it’s values to be more responsible about its history.

Consistency doesn’t mean stay the same if presented with new info or updated values to match a new reality.

 

[Luke Cage]

If you say so breh

Like I said, keep that same consistency when someone is said or done that offends you or that you aren't a fan of. Follow the same MAGA logic that you're using as a defense.

i've never attempted to cancel anyone before, so it shouldn't be too hard to follow the same logic. although i don't know how me not participate in this online lynching culture is maga logic. seems the opposite to me.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

It’s not because it’s perfectly fine to update views and say what we once thought was okay is not anymore. My personal thoughts aside I don’t have an issue with a society updating it’s values to be more responsible about its history.

Consistency doesn’t mean stay the same if presented with new info or updated values to match a new reality.

Which is totally fine with to do. The problem comes in that some of society pretends as if they never took part or condone said activities in the first place when they call it out.

Case in point, the hypocrisy involving the media and Trump. They tried to wash their hands clean of him after the Capitol Riot situation without acknowledging the fact that they help spread and further his message for years in the name of ratings. They also tried to throw Fox News under the bus without calling out the part they help play in it as well.

It's hypocritical and even you'd know that. Accept responsibility for creating what transpired and say that you'll do better going forward. They won't even do that.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

i've never attempted to cancel anyone before, so it shouldn't be too hard to follow the same logic. although i don't know how me not participate in this online lynching culture is maga logic. seems the opposite to me.

Your logic is MAGA and Right Wing even if you aren't willing to admit it. It's the same talking and whining points that they've been doing now for years.