Do nikkas really think Off The Wall was better than Thriller???

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hey man some nikkas think It was written was better than illmatic. Its just based on people’s taste... :yeshrug:


Both Off the wall and Thriller are classics, but in my opinion thriller pretty much was flawless throughout, while off the wall probaly 1and half bad songs:lolbron:, but i wouldn’t call it blasphemy if someone told me Off the wall was better.
 

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Thriller has

Billie Jean:banderas:
Human Nature:ohlawd:
Lady in my Life:wow:
Wanna be startin something:ohlawd:
Baby be Mine:ohlawd:
The girl is mine:ehh:
Beat it:ohlawd:

Off the Wall-

Rock with you:banderas:
Off the Wall:ohlawd:
Get on the floor:ohlawd:
Don't stop till you get enough:banderas:
I can't help it:wow:
Girlfriend:ehh: :patrice:
Its the falling in love:patrice:
Edit I forgot 'She's out of my life' :wow: :mjgrin:

OFF THE WALL got the narrow edge over Thriller..:wow:
 

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IMO, Off the Wall is the better album but Thriller has the bigger hits. Like others have stated, Off the Wall has a better groove than Thriller, but Thriller having probably the greatest music video known to man didn't hurt sales at all. lol. Those 2 will always be my 2 favorite albums of his but I'm reaching for Off the Wall first everytime.
Baby be mine underated
This is probably one of Michael Jackson's most underrated songs, written by non other than Rod Temperton. He gave Mike that heat on those first 2 albums.. :banderas:

Rock WIth You :wow:
Off the Wall :wow:
Thriller :wow:
Baby Be Mine :wow:
Lady in my Life :banderas:
 

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Off The Wall as a whole is a better album than Thriller

Thriller got some of the cheesiest and cringey MJ songs on there...

I ain't gonna be a grown man and play Thriller, Girl Is Mine, Beat It...

I think Thriller was the beginning of the cheesiness...

Bad is another album where I skip half the album...

I ain't listening to fukking Bad or Man in the Mirror or The Way You Make Me Feel...
nikka what???

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So Off the Wall is the only MJ album you like? :dwillhuh:

And what's wrong with The Way You Make Me Feel? :dwillhuh:

I think Off the Wall is his best album. I think Dangerous is his most serious and personal album. I think Bad is his worst albums as far as ranking albums in his prime goes...

Off The Wall is like a nightlife soundtrack to me, it tells a story. The rest of his albums are just a collection of songs that can hopefully hit number 1 on the charts.

Off the Wall showcases Michael's technical singing prowess and his song presence. That's the type of pop music virtuoso that I would expect him to become. Not making songs like Bad, The Girl Is Mine, Thriller or Man in Mirror which is full of cheesiness, cliches and platitudes.

I think the commercial success of Thriller hides how cheesy most of the songs are on that album. I think Michael Jackson's commercial success makes him very overrated in general..especially compared to someone like Prince or Marvin Gaye.

Wanna Be Starting Something, Billie Jean, Human Nature, Baby Be Mine and Lady In My Life are the only songs I fukk with Thriller album.

Michael Jackson wasn't a mature or personal artist. He majority of his career he wrote/performed very bland and cookie cutter formulaic songs after Off the Wall...so he can sell as much records possible. That's was his goal, it wasn't to make the best songs, but songs that get number 1s and occupy the charts.

To me, Michael Jackson is for kids or people who like and can appreciate simple poppy shyt. Michael Jackson is like the Transformers of music. A consistent technical spectacle with very little depth.

Michael Jackson is one of the greatest male vocalists....but he didn't really sing or do the songs I would expect from a guy as talented as he is.

I would've liked more songs like Wanna Be Starting Something, Leave Me Alone, Can't Help It, Human Nature, Don't Stop Until You Get Enough, Rock With You, Smooth Criminal or Billie Jean. For every one of those songs you get shyt like Bad, Girl Is Mine, Just Can't Stop Loving You, Man in the Mirror and etc.

His genius lies in his packaging of music and the promotion of himself. His music videos and etc. Thriller and Beat It are good music videos...but I ain't listening to the songs by themselves.

His albums...outside of a Off The Wall...are hit and miss when it comes to the tracklist...alternates from brilliant songwriting and a haunting and overbearing personal touch to pure pop commercial cheesiness...
 
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I think Off the Wall is his best album. I think Dangerous is his most serious and personal album. I think Bad is his worst album.

Off the Wall showcases Michael's technical singing prowess and his song presence. That's the type of pop music virtuoso that I would expect him to become. Not making songs like Bad, The Girl Is Mine, Thriller or Man in Mirror which is full of cheesiness, cliches and platitudes.

I think the commercial success of Thriller hides how cheesy most of the songs are on that album. I think Michael Jackson's commercial success makes him very overrated in general..especially compared to someone like Prince or Marvin Gaye.

Wanna Be Starting Something, Billie Jean, Human Nature, Baby Be Mine and Lady In My Life are the only songs I fukk with Thriller album.

Michael Jackson wasn't a mature or personal artist. He majority of his career he wrote/performed very bland and cookie cutter formulaic songs after Off the Wall...so he can sell as much records possible. That's was his goal, it wasn't to make the best songs, but songs that get number 1s and occupy the charts.

To me, Michael Jackson is for kids or people who like and can appreciate simple poppy shyt. Michael Jackson is like the Transformers of music. A consistent technical spectacle with very little depth.

Michael Jackson is one of the greatest male vocalists....but he didn't really sing or do the songs I would expect from a guy as talented as he is.

I would've liked more songs like Wanna Be Starting Something, Leave Me Alone, Can't Help It, Human Nature, Don't Stop Until You Get Enough, Rock With You, Smooth Criminal or Billie Jean. For every one of those songs you get shyt like Bad, Girl Is Mine, Just Can't Stop Loving You, Man in the Mirror and etc.

His genius lies in his packaging of music and the promotion of himself. His music videos and etc. Thriller and Beat It are good music videos...but I ain't listening to the songs by themselves.

His albums...outside of a Off The Wall...are hit and miss when it comes to the tracklist...alternates from brilliant songwriting and a haunting and overbearing personal touch to pure pop commercial cheesiness...

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Yall really outchea playing songs like Thriller, Beat It and Bad...:lolbron:

I can't even keep a straight face looking at the Bad music video let alone hearing the damn song...

And yall grown adults rocking out to that shyt...?

All I am saying...that shyt for kids...it's like people that think Dragon Ball Z is one of the best animes ever and they are grown...there's better stuff out there...that is suitable for your age...

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I think Off the Wall is his best album. I think Dangerous is his most serious and personal album. I think Bad is his worst albums as far as ranking albums in his prime goes...

Off The Wall is like a nightlife soundtrack to me, it tells a story. The rest of his albums are just a collection of songs that can hopefully hit number 1 on the charts.

Off the Wall showcases Michael's technical singing prowess and his song presence. That's the type of pop music virtuoso that I would expect him to become. Not making songs like Bad, The Girl Is Mine, Thriller or Man in Mirror which is full of cheesiness, cliches and platitudes.

I think the commercial success of Thriller hides how cheesy most of the songs are on that album. I think Michael Jackson's commercial success makes him very overrated in general..especially compared to someone like Prince or Marvin Gaye.

Wanna Be Starting Something, Billie Jean, Human Nature, Baby Be Mine and Lady In My Life are the only songs I fukk with Thriller album.

Michael Jackson wasn't a mature or personal artist. He majority of his career he wrote/performed very bland and cookie cutter formulaic songs after Off the Wall...so he can sell as much records possible. That's was his goal, it wasn't to make the best songs, but songs that get number 1s and occupy the charts.

To me, Michael Jackson is for kids or people who like and can appreciate simple poppy shyt. Michael Jackson is like the Transformers of music. A consistent technical spectacle with very little depth.

Michael Jackson is one of the greatest male vocalists....but he didn't really sing or do the songs I would expect from a guy as talented as he is.

I would've liked more songs like Wanna Be Starting Something, Leave Me Alone, Can't Help It, Human Nature, Don't Stop Until You Get Enough, Rock With You, Smooth Criminal or Billie Jean. For every one of those songs you get shyt like Bad, Girl Is Mine, Just Can't Stop Loving You, Man in the Mirror and etc.

His genius lies in his packaging of music and the promotion of himself. His music videos and etc. Thriller and Beat It are good music videos...but I ain't listening to the songs by themselves.

His albums...outside of a Off The Wall...are hit and miss when it comes to the tracklist...alternates from brilliant songwriting and a haunting and overbearing personal touch to pure pop commercial cheesiness...
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I think Off the Wall is his best album. I think Dangerous is his most serious and personal album. I think Bad is his worst albums as far as ranking albums in his prime goes...

Off The Wall is like a nightlife soundtrack to me, it tells a story. The rest of his albums are just a collection of songs that can hopefully hit number 1 on the charts.

Off the Wall showcases Michael's technical singing prowess and his song presence. That's the type of pop music virtuoso that I would expect him to become. Not making songs like Bad, The Girl Is Mine, Thriller or Man in Mirror which is full of cheesiness, cliches and platitudes.

I think the commercial success of Thriller hides how cheesy most of the songs are on that album. I think Michael Jackson's commercial success makes him very overrated in general..especially compared to someone like Prince or Marvin Gaye.

Wanna Be Starting Something, Billie Jean, Human Nature, Baby Be Mine and Lady In My Life are the only songs I fukk with Thriller album.

Michael Jackson wasn't a mature or personal artist. He majority of his career he wrote/performed very bland and cookie cutter formulaic songs after Off the Wall...so he can sell as much records possible. That's was his goal, it wasn't to make the best songs, but songs that get number 1s and occupy the charts.

To me, Michael Jackson is for kids or people who like and can appreciate simple poppy shyt. Michael Jackson is like the Transformers of music. A consistent technical spectacle with very little depth.

Michael Jackson is one of the greatest male vocalists....but he didn't really sing or do the songs I would expect from a guy as talented as he is.

I would've liked more songs like Wanna Be Starting Something, Leave Me Alone, Can't Help It, Human Nature, Don't Stop Until You Get Enough, Rock With You, Smooth Criminal or Billie Jean. For every one of those songs you get shyt like Bad, Girl Is Mine, Just Can't Stop Loving You, Man in the Mirror and etc.

His genius lies in his packaging of music and the promotion of himself. His music videos and etc. Thriller and Beat It are good music videos...but I ain't listening to the songs by themselves.

His albums...outside of a Off The Wall...are hit and miss when it comes to the tracklist...alternates from brilliant songwriting and a haunting and overbearing personal touch to pure pop commercial cheesiness...

:yeshrug: I don't know, man. This reads like you're really selling Michael short. Guy had almost inhuman talent and he was capable of making music that spoke to people of various generations. He made songs like "Thriller" and "Beat It" because he wanted something that would appeal to the younger crowd, but he also had jams like "Billie Jean" and "Human Nature" that were more mature and showcased his evolution as an adult singer. Michael was always evolving, constantly morphing his image to his liking and experimenting with different sounds.

Off the Wall was his first journey into being a serious solo artist. Thriller was his attempt to create the greatest album of all-time, an album that nobody on the planet could fukk with or deny. Bad was more mechanical and industrial than his previous work, but he was going for an edgier image and sounding more paranoid and aggressive than ever before. Once he saw that he wouldn't be the man for too long, he updated his own sound with Dangerous and hooked up with contemporary producers to sustain his run on top. Many artists would have crumbled by doing this and seen as riding the wave, but all it did was give Michael an opportunity to make songs like "Jam" and "Remember the Time," songs he couldn't have made on his previous records.

As Michael's career progressed, his songwriting became darker and more frustrated, and the line between him as an entertainer and him as a man became more blurred, to the point where he took the lead single of his ninth album and told all the people dogging him to fukk off. Michael Jackson was a universal artist. Shouldn't he be celebrated instead of vilified for being so versatile, and being able to resonate with people from various generations because of all the different types of songs he made?

I can't really say that Michael made music that was bland or soulless. His songs always sounded unique to him. I don't know many other singers that could take songs like "Thriller," "Beat It," and "Bad" and make them work like he did. Was he way more concerned than he should have with selling records? Yes. But when you make the highest-selling album of all-time, and you go from a rising star to the biggest entertainer in the world in less than five years, your expectations and mindset have no choice but to change.

TL;DR - Michael Jackson was a gifted performer that made different songs for different audiences, and it was because of his ability to strike a chord with people from various generations, backgrounds, and sensibilities that made him so respected and beloved to this day.
 
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