Precisely this is why I hate other men, or at the very least look down on nikkas that give quantifiable thirst. Idc if you holla on a dating app, irl, social media, if you watch porn, or use escorts. But voluntarily giving attention with no means/chance of shooting your shot or getting the girl ie. like, posting ig chicks on the coli LIKE SOME COLI USERS

, or following ig models is shameful. Not even a transaction, pure attention charity.
Nothing you said is wrong, and I'm sure YOU realize the following, but MOST WOMEN don't. The fact of the matter is what you describe underlies the point that being nice guarantees you nothing, and all things being equal, unless you're one of the naturally/genuinely kind people in the world AKA less than 10-15% of humans; being nice takes MORE EFFORT than being apathetic, or moreover downright mean/cold. Therefore most people in this conversation, men, will be apathetic, or mean/cold. Most men start out nice (as society teaches), but a lack of success or poor experiences with women turns them to the latter, some are redeemed by good women, but increasingly in our current society men are not being redeemed, which is bad for a plethora of reasons. Granted, women aren't necessarily responsible for/have to care about these bad consequences on a societal level, but on an individual level, women do need to stop complaining about not finding "good men", when they only give men who have looks, game, and or money (aka variables that make women more disposable to them) chances.
Long winded but my 2 cents
This is my main issue as well, make decisions and live with them.
Come on breh, clearly no one gives a fukk, we just want them to STFU and stop telling the lie all men ain't shyt when you've only ran with ain't shyt men BY CHOICE, it's blatant lying/misinformation and it's sabotaging young women, and the future of society by proxy
Valid point in saying it deserves it's own thread
At risk of that train coming my way, or the



vibes sent my way.... To a degree people choose how they are perceived. Theoretically if women wanted to run errands and not be bothered/noticed they can do what men do in those same situations and dress casual/low-key, not do make-up, and wear baggy clothes. The fact of the matter is they do care immensely about how they look, but only in hopes that certain people notice. To draw a comparison, as a breh, if I'm going to do business/hang out in a middle class or upper middle class neighborhood that's heavily caucasian, I'll wear chukka boots, fitted pants and a casual stylish button down/or top as opposed to a more comfortable outfit of pair of joggers, a t-shirt, and sneakers. Why would I wear that stuff, because I don't want to stand out and have white eyes on me more than I'll already get for being a breh in enemy territory. Conversely if I was going to the hood, I'd wear the joggers, sneaks, and t to blend/not draw attention.
For me, Idc if women LIKE being approached, to determine whether I do so, I care about if I have high chance of converting that into sex, a date, or a relationship, that's why generally I don't approach, because more oft than not as a 5'8'' in shape, early 20s, broke breh, I'm really just giving free attention, bc they ain't fw me like that