Youseenmywork
KING
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Do You Feel Former Thots/Ho's Deserve Happiness?
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Youseenmywork
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PartyHeart
All Star
You are right to an extent...BUT
A woman will mix and justify every word in the english dictionary to fit under their umbrella what that exact word means
I been called the homeboy/the friend/the boo etc...while engaged in non committed sexual relationships...yet they told me they would fight another bytch on their block if i were to fukk with them
a decent amount of women usually have "noncommittal sex"with men they are attracted to usually go wit the hope that something "accidentally"happens such as a relationship/"friendship" afterwards and or child to keep the connection at some level..
Females not just going to a nikka crib to strip down get fukked and just leave with no words being said..even most hoes dont do that..She gonna wanna talk for a bit, she gonna wanna get in the mood..she might even wanna spend the night..the point im making is yeah its described as noncommittal by her initially, but how is it fully that a few months later when she begins to crave the connection and starts acting like its more than just sex?
I know women who fukk the hated baby daddy or ex to keep their dikk counts low
I know women who take dikk for money
I know women who fukk on the 1st date
You can fukk my friend or uncle and i can give 2 fukks...
I can fukk your friend or moms and you will feel a certain way..
But if its non-committal, its fair game
Thats not my style, but the point im making is the decent amount of woman who describe their sex as non-committal are not having non-committal type relations...
if there are boundaries,it aint non-committal
Women want the feeling of a relationship by any means possible,even in a non committed one..
So basically you've completely contorted the situation in question to fit your agenda. First you have to flat out lie and say there is always some underlying hope it leads somewhere, and then next you lie about the definition of noncommittal. Since when is noncommittal defined by having no boundaries? That has nothing to do with anything. I am so sorry to break this to you, but you being okay with people sleeping with your family members and some women not being okay with you doing that with theirs does not mean they secretly love you and want a relationship. How about they don't care who you sleep with, they just don't want you to get involved with anyone in their life? But gas yourself if you must.
At the end of the day, men are just going to tell themselves whatever they want to believe. If you tell a man, sometimes women just want to have sex and its not much deeper than that, they'll either tell you "no no that's not true women are different!" or they'll tell you "yes but its always because they want a relationship". You guys will go so far as to deny science and studies to continue to hold your beliefs.
one minute it's "women like sex too" the next minute it's "i want a relationship" these women just selling their BS to simps who get mad at noncommittal sex and saying a different thing to nikkas who actually get women.
IS IT OOCHIE wally or is it ONE MIC?
Sometimes I feel like you all are being dense on purpose. Because there is literally nothing hard to understand about what you just typed. How is it confusing that at one point in a woman's life she might be interested in casual sex or noncommittal relationships, while at another point she might not be?
It comes back to the idea that you guys really don't see women as fully human in the way that you understand your own humanity. You have no problem digesting the idea that a man can want to have casual sex here and there while he's young and then want to marry, but when you propose the exact same scenario for women you are like huh how is that possible I don't get it
PartyHeart
All Star
This is so laughable. You being "honest" on your perspective and women responding by laughing at the stupidity of it, or simply disagreeing if they are nice, is not women forcing you to only be honest amongst yourselves. Its simply women disagreeing with you. Women refusing to live their life by guidelines that are biased against them is not them being hardheaded, its them refusing to play by rules that advantage you and disadvantage them. One day you all will have to accept that.
And yes, men can be hoes, and many of them are. No one cares how much harder it is for you to get laid. You have sex with lots of people, you're a hoe.
SheWantTheD
Veteran
I completely understand that women may find a man attractive or interesting and just want to have sex with him and that's that. Thing is, I ain't tryna wife woman that get down like that. It is what it isSo basically you've completely contorted the situation in question to fit your agenda. First you have to flat out lie and say there is always some underlying hope it leads somewhere, and then next you lie about the definition of noncommittal. Since when is noncommittal defined by having no boundaries? That has nothing to do with anything. I am so sorry to break this to you, but you being okay with people sleeping with your family members and some women not being okay with you doing that with theirs does not mean they secretly love you and want a relationship. How about they don't care who you sleep with, they just don't want you to get involved with anyone in their life? But gas yourself if you must.
At the end of the day, men are just going to tell themselves whatever they want to believe. If you tell a man, sometimes women just want to have sex and its not much deeper than that, they'll either tell you "no no that's not true women are different!" or they'll tell you "yes but its always because they want a relationship". You guys will go so far as to deny science and studies to continue to hold your beliefs.
Sometimes I feel like you all are being dense on purpose. Because there is literally nothing hard to understand about what you just typed. How is it confusing that at one point in a woman's life she might be interested in casual sex or noncommittal relationships, while at another point she might not be?
It comes back to the idea that you guys really don't see women as fully human in the way that you understand your own humanity. You have no problem digesting the idea that a man can want to have casual sex here and there while he's young and then want to marry, but when you propose the exact same scenario for women you are like huh how is that possible I don't get it
And if women didn't lie to men and boys about women, then we wouldn't have conflicting thoughts about women or hold them to a high standard. Growing up men were always demonized for being players, doing women wrong, cheating etc 98% of the time, whereas women were demonized for those same things 2% of the time and it was also justified and rationalized for them.
Women placed women on a pedestal in men's minds, y'all described yourselves as angelic beings that can't do no wrong. Y'all are smarter than us, more mature than us, more civilized than us, etc. How many times have I heard and still continue to hear that women don't like sex, and that them giving sex to men is a privilege? How many times do I hear that men get into relationships for sex, and women get into relationships for the commitment and all the other relationship stuff? Through our experiences we are breaking these programs.
Y'all tell us you want nice guys that are gonna buy you flowers, chocolates, tell you how beautiful you are, etc. But at the same time chase after dudes that treat you like shyt while dogging the dude that treats you well. And I'm not saying that pertains to you or all women, but it definitely pertains to a lot.
SheWantTheD
Veteran
happens everydayI like seeing coli brehettes argue.
Doesn't happen enough
Youseenmywork
KING
Thats why you have you opinion and I have mine but since you think it's laughable give ME A better well thought out philosophy to run with. Since I'm soooo laughable you act like this isn't going on as we speake out in the world. Adapt or DIE. Like I tell most guys don't complain NOBODY can change the game but you can learn about yourself and learn how to play that works for you .
PartyHeart
All Star
I completely understand that women may find a man attractive or interesting and just want to have sex with him and that's that. Thing is, I ain't tryna wife woman that get down like that. It is what it is
And if women didn't lie to men and boys about women, then we wouldn't have conflicting thoughts about women or hold them to a high standard. Growing up men were always demonized for being players, doing women wrong, cheating etc 98% of the time, whereas women were demonized for those same things 2% of the time and it was also justified and rationalized for them.
Women placed women on a pedestal in men's minds, y'all described yourselves as angelic beings that can't do no wrong. Y'all are smarter than us, more mature than us, more civilized than us, etc. How many times have I heard and still continue to hear that women don't like sex, and that them giving sex to men is a privilege? How many times do I hear that men get into relationships for sex, and women get into relationships for the commitment and all the other relationship stuff? Through our experiences we are breaking these programs.
Y'all tell us you want nice guys that are gonna buy you flowers, chocolates, tell you how beautiful you are, etc. But at the same time chase after dudes that treat you like shyt while dogging the dude that treats you well. And I'm not saying that pertains to you or all women, but it definitely pertains to a lot.
Y'all are killing me with the fallacies lol. First of all, if you read this thread, its men lying to you about women. Y'all get really desperate about asserting how "different" women are in order to continue to hold women to standards that you don't want to have for yourselves. It has nothing to do with putting women on a pedestal or thinking they are angelic, its actually for quite the opposite reason. And telling men that women can be the same way as men doesn't make men understand women any better, it just makes them hate women for being human exactly like them.
Secondly, how is having casual sex wrong? Why should anyone be demonized for it if they are up front and honest with their partner about it? I know you will respond to this saying you consider it wrong, but considering men pretty much never condemn other men for having casual sex, I don't buy it. You don't consider the act of casual sex wrong, you consider women engaging in it wrong.
Finally, I knew the nice guy stuff would come up because that's probably what this thread is in disguise. I've already discussed that just being nice and giving complements and buying presents is not going to be enough to make a woman love you, the same way a woman just having sex with you or feeding your ego is going to be enough to make you love her. For most men, you'll need to be attractive in addition to those things. The same is true for women. For many women especially of higher caliber, you might also need to have a decent ability to provide or at least have ambition and be working towards it. If a guy doesn't have these things, he shouldn't blame it on him being nice as to why he isn't successful anymore than a fat woman should blame men wanting hoes for her failures. No woman is turning down Boris Kodjoe because he buys her too many gifts and treats her too well. There are other, usually far more straight forward reasons for the things we experience in relationships.
PartyHeart
All Star
dbl
PartyHeart
All Star
I've already said it countless times. My philosophy just happens to be one of equality. I view female and male hoes the exact same, and I think people with similar sexual behavior and sexual backgrounds should be accepting of each other. Like I told the poster above, y'all are fighting so hard against it because you want restrictions on women that you don't want on yourselves (males). Its obvious and nothing new. Doesn't mean women or even other men are going to live by your biased outlook
Youseenmywork
KING
Women really don't know what the laws society and better yet a more feminized society we are living in. Men are being emasculated at an alarming rate and you don't see threads on that. Why aren't women fighting for the men that are getting emasculated ? No you have women who sit here and get mad or perturbed about how a man chooses to survive amongst the women and or the dating world. Tomorrow I'm suppose to sit down with this guy who has two wives nd get some insight on how he makes that work. Every men should do WHAT works for them
That like a female lion telling me HOW to be a male lion and haven't NEVER been a male lion a day in your life.
Youseenmywork
KING
And I'm saying to you that there is no such thing as equality. The only reason women feel like they are equal is because Men with hold ceartin aspects of there manhood to make women feel equal. Even in the bible kings had concubines. I'm not ARROGANT enough to want to change the nature of ANYONE creature like women do men. I'm saying to you or any other women do you I'm going to adapt and do it well
You still didn't give me a philosophy how I should approach dating from a male perspective that has nothing to do with the female imperative.
StickStickly
Superstar
Okay but how do you know she's making you wait and is actually sleeping with other men, unless she tells you? And then id be interested to know how women bring that up.I completely agree with that, but like other women have said on here.. many women will have sex with a man immediately while make another one wait. As men we perceive that as a waste of our time, and we see no logical reason to wait to have sex with a woman that didn't let another man wait.
In every other aspect of life this dynamic makes sense, but for some reason to women it doesn't
Even so, if she is making you wait while sleeping with other men on the side, sounds like the two of you are on different expectations of what you want from another. The moment I hear a woman is making a guy wait I think she is either religious or she really likes the guy and is worried she will make him think she isn't girlfriend material if she sleeps with him too soon. She doesn't care about the other guy she's sleeping with or how she comes across to him. But if this makes the new guy upset because he wants sex, then he probably doesn't want a relationship and just wants something casual or quick. So these two people need to get on the same wave length. She's only wasting your time if all you want is sex and you view sex as sacred and will not like that she's sleeping with another guy (which won't matter if you just want sex right?)
SheWantTheD
Veteran
fallacies? Nothing I said in the post you just replied to was a lie. I even agreed with you but now I'm asserting how women are different? And just because I said we hold women to a higher standard doesn't mean I do not hold myself to such a standard.
You might want to re-read my post. I never said men nor women are or should be demonized for having casual sex. I said men were demonized as being players, cheaters, doing women wrong etc while women are painted as those things MUCH MUCH less in media, real life, etc. Female teachers who statutorily rape their students are given less if any prison time at all compared to their male counterparts.
I don't consider casual sex wrong. Do I agree with it? No. Do I view it as healthy and good for someone in the long term? No. You are saying that I'm stating things that I never did. And you are assuming that I hold women to standards that I myself do not match, which isn't the case. And women do that in other areas such as a man's physique (he must have abs, muscular, go to the gym when they are sick n flabby, height (must be 6ft or taller when they are average height), how much he makes (he must make more then them), hairline (his hairline must have not receded at all when who knows what their hair looks like wearing weaves and wigs), etc.
Again, make another assumption. Nice guy? What? I brought up nice guys as an example of women claiming what they want when they don't. I purposely gave a specific detail (buying flowers and chocolates). A female poster here even told a male poster if he wanted to get a stripper into him, he should do those things. That right there is what I'm talking about. Y'all are lying to us about women.
This thread is not even a women bashing thread. I merely posed a question. For some reason I repeat this over and over again, and it flies over y'alls heads. And to hop back onto you making an assumption, you are assuming I have trouble attracting women, which is not true at all. I attract women everywhere I go just based off my looks. I have never had problems attracting women.
Sexually promiscuous women, especially older married ones with families have thrown themselves at me. You thinking that I'm somehow bitter because sexually promiscuous women that I don't want to marry didn't want me is completely untrue.