Doc Rivers vs Bill Simmons, who wins in a fight

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has simmons admitted he wrote articles tryna get doc fired before the big 3 was formed, or is loyalty only a one-way street?


:laugh: so articles have the power to get people fired now?
 

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I agree people just love Doc so they ignore what he did.Its like when Alonzo Mourning scumbagged the Nets but people liked him and he was sick so thye ignored it

WIth that said Simmons subtely threatening him like he has some pull in the nba i think hes a little dellusional there i doubt he has any power in the league

Bill has connects to information. I doubt he has any pull with teams in the league, but he probably has access to enough info to make anyone look bad. What makes him more dangerous is he ain't a beat writer so he don't have to suck up or keep shyt quiet. He does his mailbag and keeps it light.

You gotta do some dirt to get to the level they're all at. Not one of them (coaches, media, front offices or players) are without skeletons plus on the subject of Doc I bet Bill is getting info straight from Danny and Wyc.

nikkas hate Bill, but he's the only one of ESPN that criticizes and not just to be contrarian like Skip and SAS.
 

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Aren't the Celtics in rebuilding mide? Why would anybody be mad at an accomplished coach for not wanting to go through that? So he can lose games and get fired?

Exactly. Theses same "he quit" dudes, Simmons included, wouldn't have shyt to say if the Celtics decided to fire him a couple years from now. Its funny how when the coach or star player leaves a situation they're "selfish"'or "quitters", but the team does it & no one says anything. Hypocrites, go get ya money Doc
 

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doc brought boston the 'chip. aka... EXACTLY what he was hired to do.

as far as i'm concerned he can wake up tomorrow and say 'fukk all yall hoes, i'm out.' or leave and never explain shyt. no boston fan should have shyt to say. including simmons. aka clam chowda's finest.

would u give up that 'chip to remove 'Doc the Traitor' from Boston Lore? No? STFU then.

he did his job. go out in whatever way you feel comfortable.

PS - bill simmons need to fall back with the condescending tweets, calling him out by his first name like he speaking to a child or some shyt. i swear, that's my least favorite part about corporate america. when ppl dont have to worry about getting punched in the face for being disrespectful they say all kinds of dumb shyt. had to curse somebody out in front of the whole office on Monday just to let them ALL kno what would happen if one of them wanted to try me next.
 

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Exactly. Theses same "he quit" dudes, Simmons included, wouldn't have shyt to say if the Celtics decided to fire him a couple years from now. Its funny how when the coach or star player leaves a situation they're "selfish"'or "quitters", but the team does it & no one says anything. Hypocrites, go get ya money Doc


it's not that at all. you're missing the whole point. It's him saying he was all about Boston etc, and other flip flopping he's been doing. He quit straight up.

read this
Green Street » Fact or fiction: Doc Rivers’ odd call to Boston media
 

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Doc and his kid take an L here. Simmons spit nothing but truth and they both are pusy hurt. Doc most overrated coach it took 3 hall of famers and GOAT coach in the game now (thibs to win a title) 1 title for that big 3 is a disappointment imo

is there something wrong with coaching 3 HOF players at once. Pat Riley did it, Phil Jackson did it, Bill Fitch & K.C. Jones did it as well. so whats your point
 

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Doc didnt "quit" on the celtics. when will people realize that at the end of the day, its all about business and its about being in the best situation. Teams cut players all the time.
 

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Doc didnt "quit" on the celtics. when will people realize that at the end of the day, its all about business and its about being in the best situation. Teams cut players all the time.

how many times does an owner say they want Player X to retire a member of Team Y, only to trade their ass at the first sign of slippage? no one has shyt to say then tho.

if jason kidd wanted a trade to a contender next year i'd handle the transaction myself if it meant the nets won it all this season.
 
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Simmons is right tho.

Doc DID quit on the team. If Doc wanted to coach the Celtics he would be. He signed a 5 year deal with the understanding Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett weren't gonna get any younger and there would be a rebuilding period. He said "I'm a Celtic." Then to pull all this behind the scenes, and also purposely make sure Bledsoe wouldn't go to the Celtics while under contract to Boston is fukked up. Because he is such a good politician and likable with the media, with the exception of Simmons, he got a free pass.

I don't think that this is true at all. I think he signed that deal always expecting to be able to coach Pierce, KG, and Ray through the duration (perhaps being gently, assured as much). It's always been hinted that he didn't want to rebuild. So he signs that extension believing they're going to ride that Big 3 to the wheels fall off.

Sounds like a similar bill of goods sold Ray...fast-forward 8 months or so, and they're trying to trade Ray, tho it doesn't go through. This pisses Ray off, he leaves in the off-season taking less money to join the Heat. Then we get to this offseason, and Danny's likely talking about trading KG and Pierce, and Doc is like "well, fukk it, I'm out too".

I think that's what Doc means when he says Simmons doesn't know all the facts. And to be honest, I bet Danny is actually OK with that (may've been even mutually orchestrated). We all know Doc isn't good with bad teams. Why would Danny want to pay him one of the top salaries in the league to coach the team to a shytty record?

Doc is a good coach, tho, fukk the hate. He's just not of that Larry Brown/Doug Collins mold...he ain't coaching a 30 win team to 50 wins...he's a coach a 50 win team to a title kind-of-guy.
 

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it's not that at all. you're missing the whole point. It's him saying he was all about Boston etc, and other flip flopping he's been doing. He quit straight up.

read this
Green Street » Fact or fiction: Doc Rivers’ odd call to Boston media

Breh business in the NBA changes all the time. Doc probably was all in for BOS, but his & their priorities changed. Why is he a quitter for deciding to do something different with his career when NBA franchises treat coaches like the recycling bin? How many times do franchises say "this coach is our guy" or give a coach a "vote of confidence" only to fire him when the season is over? Again the star player or star coach is expected to stay with a team or retire with that team anything else is a sin. A franchise can do whatever they want, whenever they want & not only are they justified, but y'all defend them & suggest the coach did them wrong. Interesting
 
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