Documentary >>>>>TM101 by a landslide

[JustCKing]

I can't even believe this is a actual matchup

TM101 by a LANDSLIDE. That shyt changed the focus of southern music COMPLETELY. There hasn't been a better album out the south since 101 tbh.

Documentary is one of my fav albums btw

I don't have anything against TM101, but the way ya'll stan this album on here is comedy. First, it didn't shift the focus of Southern music. When TM101 came out, it came out in the midst of Crunk dying down and the rise of Snap music. There was also artists like Maceo and songs like "Nextel Chirp", "Check My Footwork", "Go Sit Down" and some other songs in the A poppin' off. After TM101 dropped, "Laffy Taffy" went from a local sensation in Atlanta to a national craze. From there, a plethora of snap songs and dances dominated not only Atlanta, but Southern music in general. Outside of the dance crazes, TM101 still faced competition from albums that came from the wave of Houston rappers blowing up. There was also Lil' Wayne's Carter 2.

 

[28 Gramz]

Without T.I. or DJ Toomp, Jeezy and Shawty Redd don't sound like what they sounded like on Trap or Die. Ya'll need to quit attempting to re-write history with this just to elevate TM101 and Jeezy. Before T.I. and DJ Toomp, Jeezy and Shawty Redd's sound sounded nothing like it did when ya'll discovered them.

Toomp and SR don't have the same sound at all. Toomp sound is more comparable BBTP..UGK, the traditional southern gangsta music sound of the 90's. The term trap music was indeed coined by Tip but that's where it stops, but after Trap Or Die nothing was the same as far the SOUND in the south.

This is what Jeezy and SR sounded like in the summer of 04...



Nothing close to anything on Trap Music or Urban Legend.

 

[Harry B]

I don't have anything against TM101, but the way ya'll stan this album on here is comedy. First, it didn't shift the focus of Southern music. When TM101 came out, it came out in the midst of Crunk dying down and the rise of Snap music. There was also artists like Maceo and songs like "Nextel Chirp", "Check My Footwork", "Go Sit Down" and some other songs in the A poppin' off. After TM101 dropped, "Laffy Taffy" went from a local sensation in Atlanta to a national craze. From there, a plethora of snap songs and dances dominated not only Atlanta, but Southern music in general. Outside of the dance crazes, TM101 still faced competition from albums that came from the wave of Houston rappers blowing up. There was also Lil' Wayne's Carter 2.

Lol "on here", you know it sold like 2 million with little to no promotion right? (EDIT did 200k first week with little to no promotion) Dude had a straight gangster song with Big Meech in the video at #4 on the billboard 100, CNN talking about his baby mother on international tv and shyt.
shyt is a classic and change the game along with his two mixtapes Streets iz watchin and Trap or die.

 

[28 Gramz]

From there, a plethora of snap songs and dances dominated not only Atlanta, but Southern music in general. Outside of the dance crazes, TM101 still faced competition from albums that came from the wave of Houston rappers blowing up. There was also Lil' Wayne's Carter 2.

And out of all those projects..TM101 and Trap Or Die RAN the south in 2005...Wayne was not as popular as Jeezy then, I was in the middle of that movement with nikkas wearing snowman t's and every car in the club parking lots banging his shyt.

 

[Harry B]

Toomp and SR don't have the same sound at all. Toomp sound is more comparable BBTP..UGK, the traditional southern gangsta music sound of the 90's. The term trap music was indeed coined by Tip but that's where it stops, but after Trap Or Die nothing was the same as far the SOUND in the south.

This is what Jeezy and SR sounded like in the summer of 04...



Nothing close to anything on Trap Music or Urban Legend.

Don't forget, both summer 04.




T.I. had 24s and some joints before that but they were not hitting like that.

 

[JustCKing]

Toomp and SR don't have the same sound at all. Toomp sound is more comparable BBTP..UGK, the traditional southern gangsta music sound of the 90's. The term trap music was indeed coined by Tip but that's where it stops, but after Trap Or Die nothing was the same as far the SOUND in the south.

This is what Jeezy and SR sounded like in the summer of 04...



Nothing close to anything on Trap Music or Urban Legend.

Be Easy' was the beginning of a lot of things. Shawty Redd, that’s his favorite song. When you listen to a lot of Jeezy’s stuff on his first mixtape, a lot of what Shawty Redd was doing, he got the pattern from the 'Be Easy' drum pattern. It’s good to know that it had such an influence on a project like that.”--- DJ Toomp speaking on "Be Easy"

The Making of T.I.'s "Trap Muzik" - "Be Easy"

 

[28 Gramz]

Don't forget, both summer 04.




T.I. had 24s and some joints before that but they were not hitting like that.

Exactly...Jeezy and SR birthed an entire sub-genre with those joints.

 

[BO BARON]

It's arguable their both great albums

 

[JustCKing]

And out of all those projects..TM101 and Trap Or Die RAN the south in 2005...Wayne was not as popular as Jeezy then, I was in the middle of that movement with nikkas wearing snowman t's and every car in the club parking lots banging his shyt.

People were actually trying to push Wayne as a legit successor to Jay Z after Carter 2 dropped. They were starting to do it with the first Carter. 2005 was when Wayne was becoming the biggest rapper in the game from mixtapes to guest spots to albums.

Again in 2005, there was a lot moving in the South to single out just one album or project.

 

[JustCKing]

Don't forget, both summer 04.




T.I. had 24s and some joints before that but they were not hitting like that.

You don't know what you're talking about. "24s" was bigger than both those songs combined. And initially, "24s" didn't even have any label support behind it. If I'm not mistaken, the buzz from that record is what got T.I. his deal with Atlantic.

 

[Da King]

Documentary is definitely better then TM101, don't know by a mile though

It sure as hell has aged better, you can bump doc today and it's still fresh

 

[JustCKing]

Lol "on here", you know it sold like 2 million with little to no promotion right? Dude had a straight gangster song with Big Meech in the video at #4 on the billboard 100, CNN talking about his baby mother on international tv and shyt.
shyt is a classic and change the game along with his two mixtapes Streets iz watchin and Trap or die.

Again, here ya'll go with the history re-writes. Jeezy having a single produced by and featuring Akon is hardly no promotion. Him having the L.A. Reid, Jay Z, Shakir Stewart, and Diddy marketing and machine behind him is hardly no promo.

CNN talking about his baby mother has what to do with the album or mixtape.

 

[mobbinfms]

Lol "on here", you know it sold like 2 million with little to no promotion right?

The videos were getting play.
The singles were all over the radio.
He had the Boyz in the Hood cross promotion.
He was at the VMAs with Jay.
The snowman shirts were a news story.
That's little to no promotion?

 

[28 Gramz]

People were actually trying to push Wayne as a legit successor to Jay Z after Carter 2 dropped. They were starting to do it with the first Carter. 2005 was when Wayne was becoming the biggest rapper in the game from mixtapes to guest spots to albums.

Again in 2005, there was a lot moving in the South to single out just one album or project.

Wayne didn't become the biggest until about late 06-07 when all the features and Drought 3 put him on another level. In 2005, regardless of who else was putting shyt out and having success Jeezy was "the nikka". He was Wayne in 07...Gucci in 08...and present day Future of that time period.

 

[JustCKing]

Wayne didn't become the biggest until about late 06-07 when all the features and Drought 3 put him on another level. In 2005, regardless of who else was putting shyt out and having success Jeezy was "the nikka". He was Wayne in 07...Gucci in 08...and present day Future of that time period.

Jeezy wasn't the biggest rapper in the game either. Wayne clearly was the one that people had championed as "next".