Documentary >>>>>TM101 by a landslide

[28 Gramz]

Jeezy wasn't the biggest rapper in the game either. Wayne clearly was the one that people had championed as "next".

Kanye was technically the biggest rapper in both 05 and 07..but both those years are remembered for Jeezy and Wayne. Just like Drake is obviously the most popular rapper now but '15 is Future's "year" if you understand what I'm saying.

 

[JustCKing]

Kanye was technically the biggest rapper in both 05 and 07..but both those years are remembered for Jeezy and Wayne. Just like Drake is obviously the most popular rapper now but '15 is Future's "year" if you understand what I'm saying.

You can't cut 50 out of either of those years and I'm not a fan of 50. 50 was a huge part of those years. Without 50, the whole narrative of both of those years changes. For one, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion because key songs from The Documentary wouldn't exist. That album probably wouldn't have gotten released.

2005 is remembered for a lot of things. Jeezy wasn't the biggest rapper of that year by any stretch of the imagination. In hindsight, his album is more influential, but at the time, that wasn't the case. All things considered, even now, would be a stretch to say 2005 was Jeezy's.

2015 isn't Future's year. It's the biggest year of his career, but he isn't exactly running 2015 especially when his biggest project and one of his biggest songs features Drake.

 

[Zero]

TM101 shyts on the documentary something serious....you have to be a west coast dikk rider to say some shyt like that.........

THAT'S RIIIIGHT

 

[Harry B]

Again, here ya'll go with the history re-writes. Jeezy having a single produced by and featuring Akon is hardly no promotion. Him having the L.A. Reid, Jay Z, Shakir Stewart, and Diddy marketing and machine behind him is hardly no promo.

CNN talking about his baby mother has what to do with the album or mixtape.

The videos were getting play.
The singles were all over the radio.
He had the Boyz in the Hood cross promotion.
He was at the VMAs with Jay.
The snowman shirts were a news story.
That's little to no promotion?

Talking about that 2004-2005 promotion when you were on big stations, tv, radio and on. I should've said that he did big numbers first week without any promotion cause they helped him when he proved himself. Jeezy grinded hood to hood doing shows in clubs, giving out school supplies, tv-shirts, burning down clubs with bmf and on. When his album dropped and did like 200k first week then Def Jam jumped on the band waggon, released it world wide, pushed his shyt to radio outside of the south and on. Jay loves to take credit for that but Shakir was the only one who rode for Jeezy until the streets showed that he was on. They even re-realsed his album with Jay on Go Crazy.

Jeezy said himself "Two record deals and radio still won't play me".

 

[mobbinfms]

Talking about that 2004-2005 promotion when you were on big stations, tv, radio and on. I should've said that he did big numbers first week without any promotion cause they helped him when he proved himself. Jeezy grinded hood to hood, when his album dropped and did like 200k first week then Def Jam started jumped on the band waggon, Jay loves to take credit for that but Shakir was the only one who rode for Jeezy until the streets showed that he was on.

Jeezy said himself "Two record deals and radio still won't play me".

Let me put it this way. I wasn't a fan of Jeezy at all. I was already old (25) and somewhat out of the loop (in law school at the time). I still knew about all the singles, saw all the videos and knew the album was coming and Jeezy was supposed to be a big deal coming out of the South.
He was about as well promoted as any other "new" artist in 2005.

 

[Harry B]

Let me put it this way. I wasn't a fan of Jeezy at all. I was already old (25) and somewhat out of the loop (in law school at the time). I still knew about all the singles, saw all the videos and knew the album was coming and Jeezy was supposed to be a big deal coming out of the South.
He was about as well promoted as any other "new" artist in 2005.

I was a huge fan, so I would know.

I recall that none of my friends knew who he was and that people on AHH used to laugh at him as if he was some new troll AFTER the album dropped.

 

[mobbinfms]

I was a huge fan, so I would know.

I recall that none of my friends knew who he was and that people on AHH used to laugh at him as if he was some new troll AFTER the album dropped.

Your friends must have been casual fans then.
And them laughing at him doesn't surprise me - considering the album to be some genre shifting monumental moment in hip-hop history is revisionist.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

nikkas STILL bump TM101....I haven't heard a song off the doc in years...

 

[28 Gramz]

considering the album to be some genre shifting monumental moment in hip-hop history is revisionist.

You're from the eastcoast..and have no idea what you're talkin about.

 

[Harry B]

Your friends must have been casual fans then.
And them laughing at him doesn't surprise me - considering the album to be some genre shifting monumental moment in hip-hop history is revisionist.

They were laughing at everything that came out of the south and were still hoping that New York's late 90s/early 2000s prime would return.
They are probably crying now, cause that album was one of the albums that changed the game the most and it hasn't and won't be the same.

Yes my friends were casual fans back then, they knew stuff that NY radio and commercial TV played, and stuff magazines (excluding Ozone, that Big Meech probably paid for) reported about i.e. not Jeezy.

 

[mobbinfms]

You're from the eastcoast..and have no idea what you're talkin about.

I'm from CA. And I was in DC at the time.
I can't speak for the South or ATL though.
People weren't talking about the album shifting the sound of hip hop in 2005. Nobody was claiming he was some elite rhymer. The album was definitely a big deal at the time, but it grew in prominence as time passed. Obviously right? It took the Trap sound blowing up for people to fully ascertain the importance of the album.

 

[Stack Money]

You're from the eastcoast..and have no idea what you're talkin about.

By sayin this you admittin it was only important in the South and people from other regions weren't fukkin wit it like that which means it wasn't a monumental hip hop album.

 

[eastside313]

Ya'll love re-writing history just to accommodate the stanning. Trap Muzik came out in 2003. It broke through the mainstream before you probably even knew who was Jeezy was (meaning that if you weren't on Come Shop With Me, you didn't know who Jeezy was until "Icey" or Trap or Die). That's two years before Jeezy even had stans. Before T.I. dropped that album Jeezy was out here sounding like a hybrid of Pastor Troy and Trick Daddy. Without Trap Muzik, Jeezy doesn't even sound like the Jeezy you heard on Trap or Die let alone Thug Motivation.

Jeezy hit and blew past what ti was doing.

 

[28 Gramz]

By sayin this you admittin it was only important in the South and people from other regions weren't fukkin wit it like that which means it wasn't a monumental hip hop album.

No I'm not..I just know how New York nikkas are when it comes to giving albums from outside regions respect. My bad though...dude is from CA.

 

[JustCKing]

Jeezy hit and blew past what ti was doing.

Not necessarily. T.I. was doing this without Akon produced singles and features. It was also at a time whem rappers with T.I.'s look, image, and subject matter weren't successful. Heade what Jeezy was doing viable.