Our defense has been ranked in the lower 20s like all year breh. Andy sucks tho so I'm not tryna argue
Does Cam have the potential to be great?
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true...but he has arguably the best WR tandem in the league + the league's highest paid player
Better than average D + top 5 WR + Gresham + Sanu as a 3rd option ain't bad
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Yeah he does. However it's the other
KAM... chancellor
KAM... chancellor
Lower 20s isn't better than average. We played half the yr without any starting LBs. Gresh and Sanu tho....lol. 2 nikkas who will not be starting next season. Gresh won't even be here breh. Dudes a bonehead. Sanu can't get open. I dunno breh. People overhyped our weapons this yr. No Marvin Jones or Tyler Eifert was a big deal
I don't think he'll ever be great, but that's ok. At some point, at Quaterback middle class was going to form.
Cam doesn't have to be great, he just has to be better than Andy Dalton.
Cam doesn't have to be great, he just has to be better than Andy Dalton.
Good points. But let's remember the dude has been beat up all year. Coming back from ankle surgery and an OL that got him killed. Plus the car accident.....you saw him huffing and puffing last game so the dude is beat up. He also was hot as fukk and making tons of big throws at the beginning of the year before he began to get beat up.
A QB is only as good as his OL, Weapons and OC.
That is why Randell Cunningham can look like he is done in his last year in philly, retires and comes back with Denny Green's Vikings and goes to the pro bowl while leading the Vikings almost to a supernowl if not for a bad kick.
Same with how Mcnabb went from 16 TDs and 57% completion percentage the year before TO and a full time Westbrook as the back. To then the next year throwing at 64% and being the first QB in the history of the league (before the rule changes) to throw over 30 tds and less than 10 ints.
McNabb did not all of a sudden learn how to read defenses (yet the white media will tell you that) he could always do that. He didn't all of a sudden learn how to throw (yet the white media will tell you that) No it was he finally had weapons to go along with his good OL and good OC. Also the year he got TO he ran for less yards then he had the previous years. Why because having Westbrook and TO opened up the field and his WRs were open. So no need to improvise.
Like I said doc I have seen this shyt over and over again. From Randell, to McNabb to McNair.....same shyt different day. I predicted that his talent would be wasted just like the rest of them. Thankfully Russell has something that many great black QBs haven't had over the years. A power running game, a coach who will let him throw and a good OC who will call a balanced game and place him in positions to succeed.
Last you cannot ask a QB to be the leading rusher on your team every year (dude is also the teams goal line and short yardage back....think how ignorant that shyt is for a QB to be), Play behind a garbage OL, have running backs that are not dependable due to injuries, have no speed at WR. Consistently refuse to draft skill position players for him except this year and year after year take away an offensive weapon from him (Shockey and Smith). Doing all of that and still the young man has had garbage OC who consistently placed him in poor positions and positions to get him killed. As we saw at the beginning of last year with Shula and the year before where they abandoned the two TE sets and ran fukking read option play after play for over 9 weeks.
This dude is Randell all day. From the no OL, to the good defense, to the avg WRs, to the poor OC, to the one reliable guy who is a TE, to the coach who knows nothing about offense but is a defensive coordinator with ties to the Bears.
shyt don't change it just repeats itself. All I can hope for Cam is he doesn't get a knee blown out and the Panther cut him in 7 years where he signs on with a team with some weapons and resurrects his career like Doug or Randall for one or two runs.
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Yep you know the routine.
They need speed but fritz on the outside would help.....because they also need size and a player who can make big catches.
No bridgewater?
great what? great backup? great salesmen?
cause cam is not looking like a great starting quarterback
cause cam is not looking like a great starting quarterback
Naw I disagree befell is pretty good and plus he places Russell in great positions. How many times do you watch a Seahawks game and are like wow what a dumb play call. Or man they gonna get Russ killed with them dumb plays.
Also they never almost never go away from the run. They have multiple backs and actually use them. There have been games over the last 4 years where the panthers have refused to use their backs. Then turn to Cam and are like hey Cam go out there like a rented mule and run around so you can entertain folks.
Probably ain't gonna happen. This the league where McNabb had to go to 3 straight NFC Championship games and beg management just to get a great WR.
This a league where Russ statistically has more TDs and wins than any QB in his first 3 years yet his team and management takes weapons from him after winning the Super Bowl.
Dude you can't make this type of shyt up if you tried.
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He has the potential to be a good/above average QB.. I like his arm, pocket presence, mobility.. But his accuracy will forever hold him back from "great" unless it significantly improves. The true greats are the ones out there throwing guys open, putting just the right amount of touch to hit the receiver in stride to maximize YAC. He's just not at that level yet and I don't see any reason to think he will be. But if he finds that accuracy, yeah he can. Brady was winning Super Bowls with David Patten, Deion Branch, and David Givens. If Cam becomes truly great, we'll be able to see it with the guys he has now
I didn't not base it off stats.....off of talent your defense is better than average (in the 10 - 12 range)