Westbama Heartthrob
Irregular Zero
I've already told you. All elitism is bad because if one group is at the top there has to always be another at the bottomShow an example. Insults and jibs aren’t natural to you so pretending to being some linguist doesn’t come off as unrehearsed as you planned.
Not everything is slavery. You’re better than this.
Why is black elitism bad?
And who do you think that's gonna be based on history?

The end is to:We’ve done that. What don’t we grasp and what are we supposed to do with that information we gain? Do we tolerate it? Do we lower standards? Do we adjust standards? What is supposed to be changed with that information? I mean we can factor in a wider range of opinions, but…to what end? What are you saying here?
1. Recognize the different paths of success to make better recommendations for future generations instead of trying a one size fits all approach
2. Maintain community instead of sewing division between class and education levels. We know a doctor and a bus driver aren't going to make equal pay, but we can still celebrate both for their place in the community. Rich people donate money to the poor. They don't live amongst them or work alongside them. So who does that leave with the chance for the most direct impact?
The everyday person. If they can have a positive impact on a black child or other member of the community, isn't that excellent if it promotes the growth of the next generation?
I'm talking how poverty is one of the biggest obstacles to education. If kids don't have the resources to make it on the daily through k-12, then isn't it obvious that there would be less in higher educationSomeone is going to be making decisions and I’d rather it be people who at least have a closer connection to that community.
Which is it? Elitists aren’t listening or that they’re not persuaded and thus shouldn’t be tolerated? Which is it?
You can be listened to, and still rejected. Happens all the time in court.
Thats not a doctor problem.
Reason why you see more seek the arts, trades, or other non-traditional routes. Cause of the lower barriers to entry and because they have closer proximity to those successful in those areas
Simply saying "we need more black kids in xyz" isn't putting money in their pockets to go to college. Its tone deaf
Your agenda to promote conservatism and elitism to a group of historically marginalized peopleWhat agenda?
I didn’t say anyone was unremarkable. Im asking what we gain by equating these experiences when one inherently offers more access and freedom to bring back to others?

First you tried to soft shoe your way in by attacking trans people. Which backfired cause people just became annoyed with you rather than supportive
So now you put on your Jay z freeform wig to cry your bleeding lil heart out for the black bourgeoisie whose interest and beliefs align more with the white elite than the black working class
Corrupt politicians like Larry Langford or Eric adams are the types that get thrown in our faces as Black excellence. We're supposed to root for black faces in high places who sell us out for more dollars from white capitalists. I guessing more of their ilk will satisfy you at some point

You want the black elite to rule over the community, so yeah the conversation inherently calls for the question of what's in it for themThis isn’t what you started out by arguing.
I’m asking whats wrong with black elitism. You’re talking about communal benefits.

But doesn't this call back to the premise of the thread? Who is authorized to speak on the black community?The black people who listen should be rewarded...
Those who dont, may not be quick to be rewarded...
Those who were fortunate enough to rise out of it or those directly affected by the socioeconomic struggles that plague?
Personally I feel there's room for all perspectives. Personal experience can still enhance certain conversations depending on the individual's ability to analyze their own
By living. Meet more people and maybe you'll seeehhhhhhh
Where is your evidence of this?

I've learned from everybody regardless of their standing in life. There's good and bad in everyone. Just gotta take what works for you
Ordinary people matterWhy struggle to be ordinary?
Some will be ordinary no matter what they do. They shouldn't be cast aside as failures
No matter a person's standing they can still leave an impact on someone. Just being a kind person can go a long way. I'm sure you've had someone in your community die that was a strong pillar. Nobody was crying cause of their degree or how much money they made

No, how they treated people left an impact. And that type of person isn't easy to be. Otherwise everyone would do it
It's downright obvious that I see inherent value in everyone based on everything I've saidYou keep assuming that this notion of “the every day person” means something when I keep asking you justify it you keep reverting back to some assumed argument you’ve never established for yourself.
The opposite conclusion would be that only people with money, status, or education matter (which the last two still require luck, money, and privilege to obtain even with hard work)
And everyone else is just too lazy or stupid to achieve the same

It's general info. You can't claim a state or region cause you know you'll be exposed for not knowing shyt about itI’m not revealing personal info. I already proved to you that I’m black so stop deflecting when you get an answer you don’t like.
