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You sure it ain't cut their heads and burn their homes? No matter.

I never could understand the deep resentment Dominicans have towards Haitians to this day. He wasn't a con artist but he wasn't a saint either. He grew up rough and became rough.

Because your Haitian black oppressors tried to do to us the same the whites try to do to them. And we gained our independence without killing all the women and children :youngsabo:
 

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I read that Haiti formed a union with the the Spanish speaking side of the island, the Dominican Republic. Then the Haitians enslaved the Dominicans :dwillhuh: Relations have been more or less acrimonous since then.
I've read that they killed 4,000 French women and children after the revolution. A lot of black people talk about how Thomas Jefferson refused to recognize Haiti as a republic, and formalize relations with them, but isn't it true that the mass culling played a part in the refusal to normalize relations?
 

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Because your Haitian black oppressors tried to do to us the same the whites try to do to them. And we gained our independence without killing all the women and children :youngsabo:

That's because you didn't have to. All you had to do was chase us out of town. If only you could have done the same thing to Spain when they were oppressing you. :mjpls:
 

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You sure it ain't cut their heads and burn their homes? No matter.

I never could understand the deep resentment Dominicans have towards Haitians to this day. He wasn't a con artist but he wasn't a saint either. He grew up rough and became rough.

No!

This is something that is sometimes lost in translation

  • Boule kaY = burn homes
  • Boule kaJ = burn the cage

The slaves in the colonies often lived in small outhouses which the colonists referred to as "cage" as in the cage you keep an animal in. This eventually became the home in the mindset of the african slaves who eventually adopted it into the kreyol language as kay.

Some of the former slaves got overzealous and blood thirsty for revenge took that second interpretation and ran with it. But It was never Dessalines' wishes to burn the infrastructure of the very land which he was going to govern THO he at times did say the boule kaY himself because thats what some of the slaves wanted to hear.
 

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I read that Haiti formed a union with the the Spanish speaking side of the island, the Dominican Republic. Then the Haitians enslaved the Dominicans :dwillhuh: Relations have been more or less acrimonous since then.
I've read that they killed 4,000 French women and children after the revolution. A lot of black people talk about how Thomas Jefferson refused to recognize Haiti as a republic, and formalize relations with them, but isn't it true that the mass culling played a part in the refusal to normalize relations?

I know this, but in the words of Rick James to Charlie Murphy; that was years ago mother fukker. America couldn't formalize relations but they could accept military support.smh:birdman:
 

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That's because you didn't have to, all you had to do was chase us out of town. If only you could have done the same thing to Spain when they were oppressing you. :mjpls:

Would we of been better of without Spain?? I really don't know. Even with the language, culture and religion taken over by Spain, we still have a little African and Native identity in our country and Spain failed to completely take that away. My Grandma is African black and my grandpa is European blue eye white and I take pride of both my African and European mixed background. The only thing I hate about DR is that light skinned people are treated much better than dark. Like its more beautiful to be light than to be dark. But I notice in recent history this has been changing. Dark Dominicans are getting more appreciation. Only time will tell I guess.

Btw I don't hate Haiti but the Negative feelings comes from the War
And also the Trujillo agenda. He fuked the dominican Africans and dominican haitians more than
Any spaniard ever did
 

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I read that Haiti formed a union with the the Spanish speaking side of the island, the Dominican Republic. Then the Haitians enslaved the Dominicans :dwillhuh: Relations have been more or less acrimonous since then.
I've read that they killed 4,000 French women and children after the revolution. A lot of black people talk about how Thomas Jefferson refused to recognize Haiti as a republic, and formalize relations with them, but isn't it true that the mass culling played a part in the refusal to normalize relations?

Jefferson didn't want to recognize Haiti as a republic because of the fear it would cause slave rebellions in the US, and the Africans hear would do to them what the Haitians did to the French. Also Dessalines tried to build ties with Jefferson, and Jefferson ignored him.

The Washington, Adams, and Jefferson administration all wanted to keep slavery a way of life in the caribbean and the Americas
 

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The commentary in this thread :leon:

Yall nikkas got me googling names and shyt looking like :ohhh:

Why the fukk didnt they teach us this shyt in school :mindblown:

Because the world wants you to fear Haitians. Our own fellow blacks fear us due to the stigma. We've carried that scarlett letter for 209 years now.

WE DID THAT. HOPEFULLY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT!
 

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The commentary in this thread :leon:

Yall nikkas got me googling names and shyt looking like :ohhh:

Why the fukk didnt they teach us this shyt in school :mindblown:

http://www.the-coli.com/locker-room/67653-hidden-color-2-triumph-melani-8.html#post2699955 <--- dap this post and read the rest of that thread.

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Because the world wants you to fear Haitians. Our own fellow blacks fear us due to the stigma. We've carried that scarlett letter for 209 years now.

WE DID THAT. HOPEFULLY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT!

:salute:

So, whats up with the beef between DR and Haiti? :dwillhuh:

Does it still exist 2013 or is that some old shyt?
 

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The commentary in this thread :leon:

Yall nikkas got me googling names and shyt looking like :ohhh:

Why the fukk didnt they teach us this shyt in school :mindblown:

The same reason they never taught about Marcus Garvey and the UNIA, O. W. Gurley and the Black Wall Street, African kingdoms of Kush, Nubia, Ethiopia, Zulu, and Asante.

Because they have to keep the perception that blacks are inferior to whites by nature.

Read up on Fort Mose breh, it was a colony in Florida of ex slaves before the Emancipation Proclamation was even written. They like to pretend that the only slave rebellions here was Nat Turner and Africans were just sitting around waiting to be freed. There were revolts and riots all over this country.
 

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I know this, but in the words of Rick James to Charlie Murphy; that was years ago mother fukker. America couldn't formalize relations but they could accept military support.smh:birdman:

My point is that in America, blacks are taught how great a leader Touissant was, and how he freed his people, but were never taught the ugly side of the French revolution, or most revolutions in general.
 
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