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Dr. Claud Anderson=present day Malcolm X?
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I've shared my vision on here a lot already. Most people ignore it because it does sound like a pipe dream but I believe it can be done. Not sure if its a 10yr plan though
1. Recruit top athletes to HBCU's. Have them establish relationships/networking with peers. Guys like Bdizzle & BlackKing. Once they enter NFL/NBA etc. set aside an allocated amount of funds into a pool with other black athletes. This decreases risk of investment. Use that money to start businesses in inner-city communities. i.e Banks, Grocery stories, apartments, Construction companies etc. Hire guys like Bdizzle & BlackKing to be the CEO of their business while they remain sole owner. The HBCU's responsibility, teach the incoming students about their REAL history, promote ownership, community, and healthy competitive balance between communities & train them for jobs that are open in their communities. The students responsibility is to become an OUTREACH force that sets up training for vo-tech centers, and skills for out of work blacks in these areas..for the low to mid-level entry positions or how to migrate else where and start over where their skills are needed.
2. Expansion. This will start very small...like one strip mall, then one block, then one side of the city, then the entire city, then Move on to the NEXT City. Once, the athletes start making money long after their career is over. This will spread on to the Top tier athletes who don't go to HBCU's. After the top tier Athletes are recruited into the pool. The entertainers & musicians are then recruited...and then top black politicians and it becomes mainstream.
3. Why Athletes are important. The McNair Model is the example I used because as a young kid from very humble beginnings & him being around my way. Seeing that guy come from nothing to ESPN, Sports Illustrated, ABC, Heisman canidate, and highest Black QB ever drafted showed me how much power they have & what's been taken from us. All of that 'attention' could be used to help black people who work at the HBCU's and increases prestige of the schools because people are being put to work once they graduate. That type of word spreads like wild fire. We could set up all types of advertisements, TV shows, networks, radio station all built around this. The only way Blacks should allow their child to go to PWC's is if they are paid & or brought up out of poverty. Its too much money being made off of them for black kids not to be benefiting from this.
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yo this is great.... we have a similar sort of thing - I didn't really think too much into the direct deposits into black banks though. my boy mentioned something about that though and I think it's a great idea.
trust me.... the financial literacy part is 10x harder to ingrain into the minds, than the certs and the rest. Telling a dude who just started making 30/hr - after he was just a random hood nikka to not stunt.....If hedoesn't have kids then double challenge.
I was like Kanye when i first started doing shyt.. nearly 10 years ago.. like Kanye " can't tell me nothin" Pretty much had to rebuild after that.
And yeah, more of us should be listening to speakers like Dr. Anderson. It seems trivial but it's not.
Breh, I'm not going into this blind, I know it's gonna be mad difficult. But with white baby jesus by my side, I can't lose
I've shared my vision on here a lot already. Most people ignore it because it does sound like a pipe dream but I believe it can be done. Not sure if its a 10yr plan though
1. Recruit top athletes to HBCU's. Have them establish relationships/networking with peers. Guys like Bdizzle & BlackKing. Once they enter NFL/NBA etc. set aside an allocated amount of funds into a pool with other black athletes. This decreases risk of investment. Use that money to start businesses in inner-city communities. i.e Banks, Grocery stories, apartments, Construction companies etc. Hire guys like Bdizzle & BlackKing to be the CEO of their business while they remain sole owner. The HBCU's responsibility, teach the incoming students about their REAL history, promote ownership, community, and healthy competitive balance between communities & train them for jobs that are open in their communities. The students responsibility is to become an OUTREACH force that sets up training for vo-tech centers, and skills for out of work blacks in these areas..for the low to mid-level entry positions or how to migrate else where and start over where their skills are needed.
2. Expansion. This will start very small...like one strip mall, then one block, then one side of the city, then the entire city, then Move on to the NEXT City. Once, the athletes start making money long after their career is over. This will spread on to the Top tier athletes who don't go to HBCU's. After the top tier Athletes are recruited into the pool. The entertainers & musicians are then recruited...and then top black politicians and it becomes mainstream.
3. Why Athletes are important. The McNair Model is the example I used because as a young kid from very humble beginnings & him being around my way. Seeing that guy come from nothing to ESPN, Sports Illustrated, ABC, Heisman canidate, and highest Black QB ever drafted showed me how much power they have & what's been taken from us. All of that 'attention' could be used to help black people who work at the HBCU's and increases prestige of the schools because people are being put to work once they graduate. That type of word spreads like wild fire. We could set up all types of advertisements, TV shows, networks, radio station all built around this. The only way Blacks should allow their child to go to PWC's is if they are paid & or brought up out of poverty. Its too much money being made off of them for black kids not to be benefiting from this.
I remember reading this in another thread. Doesn't sound like a pipe dream but it'd be damn difficult to implement.
I see one critical problem with your vision: how do we convince students to go to HBCU's? Imagine you're a top prospect in the country. OSU and FAMU offer you a scholarship. OSU has better facilities and a history of churning NFL players. They also offer you a better scholarship
VWhy would they ignore OSU? Also once they join the league, why would they then donate their fortunes to the cause? I'm assuming these kids aren't in the struggle for African equity
Breh, I'm not going into this blind, I know it's gonna be mad difficult. But with white baby jesus by my side, I can't lose
I remember reading this in another thread. Doesn't sound like a pipe dream but it'd be damn difficult to implement.
I see one critical problem with your vision: how do we convince students to go to HBCU's? Imagine you're a top prospect in the country. OSU and FAMU offer you a scholarship. OSU has better facilities and a history of churning NFL players. They also offer you a better scholarship
VWhy would they ignore OSU? Also once they join the league, why would they then donate their fortunes to the cause? I'm assuming these kids aren't in the struggle for African equity
Believe me, if these kids & their families are taught right & introduced to what we all know...they'd go to HBCU's as long as the HBCU's were on point as previously stated in my above post. I'll PM you the actual recruiting tool because I don't want to expose that on here. Capital is key & these guys are the one's with capital.
@iLLaV3 and we should note that if we can't get blacks in Detroit to prosper we will probably not succeed. The most black people are here, there are even more in the metro area. Just from living in other cities and traveling alot... I can see that Detroit is probably the most difficult place because the level of ignorance here is just
However, we started the black middle classes and we popped off with the black businesses (ones that weren't fire bombed and destroyed right away).
Everyone runs from here.. The NOI started here then set up shop elsewhere... this Dr. got ran out of here..and others.
Detroit is on some Chief Keef/ DMX/ Gucci Mane/ Uncle Murda level of ignorance. They ran out that great man for building their shyt to create wealth, but rep gun violence like its still the early 00s.
When are your major meetings?
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The bolded is the key. So before we even attempt to recruit kids to skip going to schools with better funding, prestige, and programs; we'd have to get them to first want to be consciously minded and put community before themselves.
To do something like you're suggesting you'd need a national educational program for black men and women even before these kids are born so that their parents raise them with the mind set of using their skills and talents to benefit black people.
your right but it doesn't have to be some national program. All you have to do is plant a seed somewhere & it will grow. I picked HBCU's because its majority black & you can somewhat speak freely in those places. If it was to start there & then expand I think we could skip the National Program stuff...because that wouldn't work. It would be snuffed out before it ever got started going that route.
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How familiar are you with the history of HBCU's? You do know damn nearl all of them were founded by whites? And also the majority of them are still funded primarily by white organizations. They don't have the amount of freedom that most people believe them to have.
This is just my personal opinion, but in 2013, I don't think appealing to people's good nature will get them to get on board. You'll essentially be telling kids, Don't go to the school you want to go to (all of the predominiately white schools with great football programs), go to an HBCU instead. And when you graduate and are making millions, don't just blow your money on all the shyt made by white people (cars, clothes, jewels, etc), invest in black people.
Do you think a kid who never was raised to think about race first is magically gonna buck the system because we sat down and had a conversation with him?
It's just the culture in some areas. Other areas are black middle class. But MI culture in general, regardless of race, is gun heavy, pro gun, pro defense. So that translates to the hood. We don't have a gang problem like la or chicago. We don't have a drug problem more so than other areas. The problem here is just about anyone will bust shots, even girls We have some of the wealthiest counties in the nation right next to some of the poorest... so people have the mentality of trying to get theirs and doing whatever to get it. ntm, we invented ignorant shyt like making it rain, stuntin n shyt.... since the 70's we had the pimp culture and that shyt was violent... plus there was so many BMF type of nikkas when I was a kid... seeing a 17 year old pushing a 100k car, sorta fcks w u when ur in poverty.. so at first ur not trying to hear about supporting some black gas station.
Different leaders are good for different areas. Claud Anderson, and most leaders aren't cut out for making real change in Detroit... and most Detroit elected officials don't have a clue. But someone who is cut out for it could take Claud Andersons blackeconomic teachings and bring it to Detroit. Detroit is the focal point for black people in America - with every issue, and all the history of the nation in one place, Also was the first black middle class that was built after Rosewood and okc and all those places were destroyed.
but I'm not sure how we can be successful as black people if we can't change places like flint and detroit. Economic knowledge wise C. Anderson is good. But I doubt Malcolm x would have been ran out the city.
hbcu's are gonna be better for them... more likely to find their black consciousness there, regardless of major, regardless of who founded the school.
bdizzle - I don't understand you're point. I went to 2 big ten universities... that shyt did nothing for my consciousness. I wish I wouldn't have been caught up w the bs , and attended a hbcu.
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My point was you'll have to instill in these kids before they're adults the importance of race first. Going to an HBCU doesn't make you conscious because the purpose of those schools aren't to churn out professionals who's goal is to help create true black communities. You'll more than likely run into those types at an HBCU, but those schools don't exist for that purpose.
Which is why I said a national program will be needed to teach these kids parents, before the kids are even born, the importance of thinking "race first." So they can raise they're children to understand that when you get that multi million dollar contract, instead of spending money on shyt that will just make you feel good (clothes, cars, houses, etc) invest your money back into the community.
pretty familiar, I attended one. You are right that these schools aren't as free as we would like but what place in America is for blacks? I didn't become conscious there either. The key is to find the right Professors & Deans. Just slip the info in in different majors/classes. I know this because I have a sis-in-law thats a Dr/prof and she does these types of things. Its a way to do it discretely (which is the only way in this country). The reason I chose HBCU's is because they have a connection with black folks and they themselves are majority black. You could teach & inform a great number of students this way.
If you reach the athletes already there or have attended one & made it to the league...you don't have to start from scratch.
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I understand why you chose HBCU's and it's a good idea. But even if you slip that information in those classes, how effective will it be? By the time the average black student reaches an HBCU, he would have had 12 straight years of an white supremecist based education. An education that constantly showed him the greatness of whites, contrasted against the inferiority of blacks (slavery, Jim Crow, etc). He would have had 18 years living in a country where the films, print, and societal institutions constantly reaffirm the superiority of whites contrasted against the inferiority of Africa. Which is why 70 years after the original Clark doll test, you still have little black children believing the white doll is good and pretty and the black doll is bad and ugly.
By the time those future athletes whom you're trying to reach hit college, they're not gonna be looking at it from the perspective of race first because they were never taught to.
Once they make it to the league, it's a little to late IMO. By then, you can't tell them dudes shyt. He's young, rich, and famous. He's not gonna be thinking about building a community at the age of 20. He's gonna be trying to pop bottles, fukk bytches, and all the other shyt all of us would have been doing if we were young, rich, and famous.
shyt I'm 31, not young, rich, or famous, and I'm still trying to fukk bytches and pop bottles
