Ok so he was afraid to fail according to you. Fair enough. Either you that guy or you not though.
Dr. Dre Rejected Working With Michael Jackson, Prince, Stevie Wonder Outta Fear
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Ok so he was afraid to fail according to you. Fair enough. Either you that guy or you not though.
Riley, DarkChild and Kellz did not have this problem with MJ though.
Riley, Darkchild, and R. Kelly didn't have that problem because what they gave Michael Jackson isn't out of their wheel house or comfort zone. Riley gave Michael Jackson New Jack, Darkchild gave MJ typical Darkchild, and the R. Kelly's "You're Not Alone" is basically an R. Kelly song with Michael Jackson vocals.
To a degree, every human is afraid to fail. If someone gave you a project where you were working with an icon, you'd have some degree of fear of failure. You're lying if you say you wouldn't regardless of how great you are at your craft.
Admitting that you were afraid to fail takes nothing away from one's greatness. In fact, it takes a great deal of humility to admit that.
And put it this way, even Michael Jackson was afraid to fail.
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So Dre is lying? He was actually afraid of not being able to deliver?
We agree then.
No. We don't agree.
Let's put it this way. If I said The Neptunes had no talent because they submitted some soft beats to Michael Jackson and he REJECTED them because he wanted "Superthug", would you be in agreement? Their music getting rejected by Michael Jackson has absolutely nothing to do with their talent. In the same regard, Dre turning down the opportunity to work with Prince, Stevie, and Michael Jackson because he feared not being able to deliver has nothing to do with his talent. It's producers who wish they were in a position to turn down opportunities like that.
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Speak on this please.
Dap fishingDamn man, Dre haters working overtime in this thread. So the guy behind Straight Outta Compton, Chronic, Doggystyle, 2001 and multiple other classics doesn't have any talent now
Dre for being honest, he wants artists that he can mold and give direction, ain't nothing wrong with that.
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Yes, it does. It means he doubted his own ability.
Breh, I guarantee you a lot of producers we hold in high regard "doubted their own ability". Babyface ain't a genius no more because he was afraid to work with Michael Jackson according to you.
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He still worked with him and it was beautiful.
You're the one who said that Dre refused to work with him because he needed to leave his comfort zone.
Well, you would have to leave your comfort zone to work with an artist of Michael Jackson's caliber or Stevie, or Prince especially coming from a Hip Hop background. Producing Michael Jackson, or a Prince, or Stevie isn't outside of Babyface's wheel house. If you don't understand that, you're not worth responding to on this particular topic.
They reached out to him.
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If you afraid to leave your comfort zone, it questions your ability as an all time great.
The only way to cast away those doubts is to overcome your fear and prove that you can shine beyond your habitual space.
Dre could not do it. So we can legitimately doubt him.
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Not comparing myself to dre but as a very minor level producer and engineer I can relate. Established artists have demands and preconceived notions of how to work, with a new artist, all they know is what you've told them or taught them, so it's a lot easier. There's not as much pressure.