Dr. Ellis on Michael Eric Dyson, Cornel West and the Black Cultural Crisis

[theworldismine13]

You have back tracked fiercely over the last year or so...

Im impressed.

what have i backtracked about?

 

[Blackking]

what have i backtracked about?

You used to be off the hook with your generalizations and views..


Now your barely even soft' c00ning.

 

[theworldismine13]

You used to be off the hook with your generalizations and views..


Now your barely even soft' c00ning.

ive been saying the same exact thing since forever, i havent changed anything

 

[Kritic]

i wouldnt say i support imperialism, but i do find the "anti imperialism" agenda to have dubious value and for various reasons i think its important for the us to stay on top

and yeah part of africans peole problems is their leaders, and?

dude stop backpeddling. you've been on record since sohh days saying you support imperialism. search the word imperialism here and you're name and see what you say.

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7794114/
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7065406/

 

[Kritic]

nobody is saying that you should ignore racism or white supremacy, what i am saying is that it isnt the core problem, and we can deal with our problems regardless of the level of racism

racism and white supremacy IS the core problem and the result of other internal black problems. you cannot be taken seriously denying that.
you've been on record saying you support imperialism for personal benefit. translation... worldismine: i'll be a c00n if it benefits me.

if someone in the black community is robbed i wouldn't say he had no job because of racism and white supremacy and let it go. i think he has to face the law to the full extent. but if we put pressure on white supremacy like dr cornel west we'd have less problems in the black community. it's outright c00nish and offensive to call dr cornel west "outdated" when he's out there in the frontline busting caps on barack and white supremacy when niccas are on the innanets enjoying the fruits on his own labor.

but white supremacy is really glad seeing and hearing smart dumb niccas going at dr cornel west. and support your statements because they don't want no responsibility in these problems.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Y'all gone learn about debating with Twimy. I gave that up a long time ago.

No matter what the topic he'll create the strawman of "waiting for whitey to save you" and conclude "we are our own worst enemy"

shyts worthless

 

[Kritic]

Y'all gone learn about debating with Twimy. I gave that up a long time ago.

No matter what the topic he'll create the strawman of "waiting for whitey to save you" and conclude "we are our own worst enemy"

shyts worthless

i don't debate him. i just like exposing him and having a fun with him. he is our own worst enemy.
sometimes i think he's like napoleon or 88 who lies that he's black and gets really exposed in black issues because the really get exposed tried to debate black issues because that's one area which you cannot fake. at least the fakes don't bother get in these threads..
timmy's angle of we're our worst enemy always fails on him.

 

[Rekkapryde]

A summary of the video:

Racism is still an issue (not nearly as much of an issue as it used to be). The bulk of the problem is a cultural crisis.

Felt that Cosby addressed the failures of the non achiever culture among us. Cosby used economic categories to identify the none achievers. He did acknowledge that maybe Cosby didn't use the right terminology, but understood where he was coming from.

He critiqued Dyson's critique that Cosby was just criticizing poor people. He felt that Dyson didn't get the message related to the culture of poverty.

He feels that while most AA, 88%, are achievers or have achiever values, a small minority lives by non achiever values. Generally, achievers set the trends and tones for everyone else; they are the leaders. However, He feels that the non achievers have become the dominant group/voice of blacks and that they sets the trends for us.


My questions:

Are the none achievers setting the tone for the Black race? Are the non-achievers the leaders in our community? If so, how did they become the voice of our race?

Agreed.

I do believe that far too many non achievers are setting the tone for an increasing number of us in lower economic areas. And the people driving this are cacs and joos who never have to worry about living in those circumstances.

 

[Kritic]

Agreed.

I do believe that far too many non achievers are setting the tone for an increasing number of us in lower economic areas. And the people driving this are cacs and joos who never have to worry about living in those circumstances.

why do you guys hate capitalism

Spoiler

in the words of the true capitalist don king, this is the land of opportunity.

 

[theworldismine13]

dude stop backpeddling. you've been on record since sohh days saying you support imperialism. search the word imperialism here and you're name and see what you say.

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7794114/
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7065406/

i support the us staying on top, ive been saying that since the sohh days, and?

if yall interpret the us staying on top as imperialism then i support imperialism

 

[theworldismine13]

racism and white supremacy IS the core problem and the result of other internal black problems. you cannot be taken seriously denying that.
you've been on record saying you support imperialism for personal benefit. translation... worldismine: i'll be a c00n if it benefits me.

if someone in the black community is robbed i say he had no job because of racism and white supremacy and let it go. i think he has to face the law to the full extent. but if we put pressure on white supremacy like dr cornel west we'd have less problems in the black community. it's outright c00nish and offensive to call dr cornel west "outdated" when he's out there in the frontline busting caps on barack and white supremacy when niccas are on the innanets enjoying the fruits on his own labor.

but white supremacy is really glad seeing and hearing smart dumb niccas going at dr cornel west. and support your statements because they don't want no responsibility in these problems.

i dont agree that racism and white supremacy is the core and i already explained why, by believing that you pretty much believe the fate of black people is in white people's hands

yeah i support imperialism if i find it beneficial to me, and? i reject the notion of making black people part of some moral movement to save the world

 

[Kritic]

i support the us staying on top, ive been saying that since the sohh days, and?

if yall interpret the us staying on top as imperialism then i support imperialism

imperialism, racism, and anything criminal can be used by anyone to stay on top. you support them crackas on jive not playing fair because.. well they gotta stay on top.

 

[Kritic]

i dont agree that racism and white supremacy is the core and i already explained why, by believing that you pretty much believe the fate of black people is in white people's hands

yeah i support imperialism if i find it beneficial to me, and?

imperalism appears to be beneficial to you but it's not. but who am i to say what is beneficial to someone else...

 

[theworldismine13]

imperalism appears to be beneficial to you but it's not.

yeah, thanks for sharing your opinion, but you were saying im backtracking, im not, i dont use the word imperialism, thats a word that yall use, i prefer the phrase 'spreading freedom and democracy and free markets'

imperialism, racism, and anything criminal can be used by anyone to stay on top. you support them crackas on jive not playing fair because.. well they gotta stay on top.

yeah and like i said, i respect that if that is your opinion as a human being, but i dont respect or agree with making black people soldiers and pawns in some corny moral movement to end imperialism, racism or any other cism

im not for equality and justice, im for black domination

 

[Kritic]

yeah, thanks for sharing your opinion, but you were saying im backtracking, im not, i dont use the word imperialism, thats a word that yall use, i prefer the phrase 'spreading freedom and democracy and free markets'




yeah and like i said, i respect that if that is your opinion as a human being, but i dont respect or agree with making black people soldiers and pawns in some corny moral movement to end imperialism, racism or any other cism

im not for equality and justice, im for black domination

so your gonna backtrack then say you aren't. then change words to get you back to exactly where you started from