Dr. Fauci: dont think we will be Back to 100% Normal by March 2022

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Total bullshyt, show me a single paper from before 2020 where experts recommended herd immunity as a positive solution to deal with any serious illness.

I was speaking to an epidemiologist back in March and she said she had literally never heard of anyone trying to achieve herd immunity from getting sick. You work for herd immunity with vaccination, not with illness. If we had team for herd immunity with illness we would have had 4x as many deaths.
Did you even bother reading my whole post?
 

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Dr. Fauci is like Duffman. He says a lot of things.

Don't wear a mask cause masks don't work.
Wear a mask cause it can protect you from covid
Now he wants us to wear 3 layered masks.

:mjtf::gucci:

I mean what the fukk do you expect? It’s a NOVEL Coronavirus. Imagine being in his shoes. A disease pops up out the blue and you have no idea how to approach it. You learn more about it when these experts study the patients, then get a broader idea on how to fight it.

The problem is, fukk CACs like Trump, put the pressure on these scientists just for his own political gain.

Give these scientists a break.

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Australia and New Zealand are still doing lockdowns. Asian countries have been doing similar things for years but lockdowns weren't one of them. They also provide proper PPE to their health care workers. And don't mention what China has done to control it. I don't any bullshyt the CCP says.
India and many other Asian countries had lockdowns MUCH stricter than the USA, despite the fact that the virus doesn't even do as well in their climate. In India they were beating people for even being out on the street without a pass.



Auckland New Zealand is in a 7 day lockdown over one case. I thought Japan and Singapore never did lockdowns.
Singapore did an incredible job of contact tracing every single case to keep the epidemic from spreading to the point where they would need lockdowns (to the point that it was a near-totalitarian invasion of privacy). They also have a very hot humid climate which makes it very difficult for the virus to spread.

Japan has generally been credited with demonstrating far better personal discipline - people mask up far more uniformly than in the USA, maintain extreme cleanliness, don't contact each other, and avoid enclosed and spaces. They also have much better health in general than the US population and more effective universal health care for all citizens. They did have a big winter spike in cases which they addressed by forcing restaurants and bars to close before the dinner/nightlife hours, because that was the main time that people were taking off their masks.
 

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:mjtf::gucci::unimpressed:

I mean what the fukk do you expect? It’s a NOVEL Coronavirus. Imagine being in his shoes. A disease pops up out the blue and you have no idea how to approach it. You learn more about it when these experts study the patients, then get a broader idea on how to fight it.

The problem is, fukk CACs like Trump, put the pressure on these scientists just for his own political gain.

Give these scientists a break.

:unimpressed:

That's right bring it all back to Trump again. You don't watch the news. Trump's not the President anymore. Go find someone else to blame. You don't think scientists like to play the political game too. This dude is just a bunch a misinformation.
 

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India and many other Asian countries had lockdowns MUCH stricter than the USA, despite the fact that the virus doesn't even do as well in their climate. In India they were beating people for even being out on the street without a pass.

France and Italy had the same strict lockdowns. Same with the U.K. and they also have better health care than India and the U.S. and still their cases were high.
 

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That's right bring it all back to Trump again. You don't watch the news. Trump's not the President anymore. Go find someone else to blame. You don't think scientists like to play the political game too. This dude is just a bunch a misinformation.

Are you a medical professional, scientist or specialty doctor? I don’t think so. Here, listen to your family members talking about masks. Bill telling it how normal people with a functioning brain thinks.

 

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No one said it was fake. Many of us feel the measures taken to deal with it aren't working and are doing more harm than good. People die from all kinds of things but we don't lockdown society over it. I think a better strategy would've been to invest more money into dealing with it but we all know politicians won't do that. The media is fear mongering way too much with it. What do they gain from it. Hmmmm. Depends on who owns them. What good is a shutdown economy for congress. Take a look at who's being shutdown and who isn't. And you ask that question as if congress gives a shyte about the health of most Americans.
This right here is why this shyt is here to stay:russ:
American idiocy in full display:mjlol:
 

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France and Italy had the same strict lockdowns. Same with the U.K. and they also have better health care than India and the U.S. and still their cases were high.
First off, what is even your argument? Because you keep throwing out supremely shytty arguments, and when I knock them down with facts, you run to the next shytty argument. Do you even have a point here?

1. You started off claiming that Fauci said masks don't work. I countered and showed you were lying, you jumped to a new argument.

2. You then claimed there was a "6 feet rule" that stated that you were safe at 6 feet but would get infected at 5'11". I showed that was an idiotic way to think about it, you jumped to a new argument.

3. You claimed that its debatable whether masks work for Covid, but then you claimed they keep you from catching colds. Someone else schooled you on that and you jumped to a new argument.

4. You claimed that Kristi Noem was the politician to listen to and I showed that she may have been literally dealt with Covid worse than any governor in America and only said her ridiculous rhetoric cause she's ultra-MAGA. So you just completely ignored that South Dakota had horrific results with Covid and are jumping to other countries now. Why is that?

5. You claimed that herd immunity is a "myth" but that they didn't say that prior to 2020. I showed that was an idiotic position and you jumped to a new argument.

6. You made the same dumb statement about how masks don't stop airborne viruses, someone else schooled you on that, you jumped to a new argument.

7. You claimed "no one got covid until politicians made an issue of it". When someone challenged you on that, you jumped to a new argument.

8. You claimed that Trump didn't mishandle the Covid response and then you called it "China Virus". When someone schooled you on that, you jumped to a new argument.

9. You claimed that the WHO said in the beginning it couldn't be transmitted human-to-human, just animal-to-human. That was an outright lie. WHO said days after the virus was announced that Chinese authorities had not yet found evidence of human-to-human transmissions but the possibility could not be ruled out. You used their statement (just a careful statement disclosing the known information at the time) as some sort of evidence that they couldn't be trusted when it showed the exact opposite.

10. You claimed Asian countries didn't do lockdowns, I corrected you and showed you that plenty of Asian countries had done lockdowns. You then claimed that some Asian countries didn't do lockdowns, I showed you what they had done that kept them from needing lockdowns. You then jumped to talk about Europe.



Do you even have any real point here or are you just tossing every random argument you've heard against the wall to see what sticks? You made 10 completely different points in the thread, most of which have nothing to do with each other, and you just ignore it when your facts get proven wrong over and over.
 

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First off, what is even your argument? Because you keep throwing out supremely shytty arguments, and when I knock them down with facts, you run to the next shytty argument. Do you even have a point here?

1. You started off claiming that Fauci said masks don't work. I countered and showed you were lying, you jumped to a new argument.

2. You then claimed there was a "6 feet rule" that stated that you were safe at 6 feet but would get infected at 5'11". I showed that was an idiotic way to think about it, you jumped to a new argument.

3. You claimed that its debatable whether masks work for Covid, but then you claimed they keep you from catching colds. Someone else schooled you on that and you jumped to a new argument.

4. You claimed that Kristi Noem was the politician to listen to and I showed that she may have been literally dealt with Covid worse than any governor in America and only said her ridiculous rhetoric cause she's ultra-MAGA. So you just completely ignored that South Dakota had horrific results with Covid and are jumping to other countries now. Why is that?

5. You claimed that herd immunity is a "myth" but that they didn't say that prior to 2020. I showed that was an idiotic position and you jumped to a new argument.

6. You made the same dumb statement about how masks don't stop airborne viruses, someone else schooled you on that, you jumped to a new argument.

7. You claimed "no one got covid until politicians made an issue of it". When someone challenged you on that, you jumped to a new argument.

8. You claimed that Trump didn't mishandle the Covid response and then you called it "China Virus". When someone schooled you on that, you jumped to a new argument.

9. You claimed that the WHO said in the beginning it couldn't be transmitted human-to-human, just animal-to-human. That was an outright lie. WHO said days after the virus was announced that Chinese authorities had not yet found evidence of human-to-human transmissions but the possibility could not be ruled out. You used their statement (just a careful statement disclosing the known information at the time) as some sort of evidence that they couldn't be trusted when it showed the exact opposite.

10. You claimed Asian countries didn't do lockdowns, I corrected you and showed you that plenty of Asian countries had done lockdowns. You then claimed that some Asian countries didn't do lockdowns, I showed you what they had done that kept them from needing lockdowns. You then jumped to talk about Europe.



Do you even have any real point here or are you just tossing every random argument you've heard against the wall to see what sticks? You made 10 completely different points in the thread, most of which have nothing to do with each other, and you just ignore it when your facts get proven wrong over and over.

Do you live in any of these countries. Do you know what the fukk goes on there. I have friends from Indian and they tell me a different story. And no one schooled me and masks not working. I always knew the N95 masks work and mentioned it. I know in France paper work was required to leave your home. I don't blame Trump for everything covid related. You only blame him cause you hate him or the media tells you to hate. Your points haven't proven shyt either. Lockdowns don't work for every country. You believe everything you read from the internet and yet you say I'm misinformed for doing the same.
 
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