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In this city you’re from you refused to name. Sounds good! :mjgrin:
your still in your tribe like thinking breh

the world is global now, it doesnt matter where im from

i suggest you seek help from a professional cos if a rapper you presumably never met can hurt u so much that u have to act like he doesnt exist

then u got some deep rooting issues my guy
 
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your still in your tribe like thinking breh

the world is global now, it doesnt matter where im from

i suggest you seek help from a professional cos if a rapper you presumably never met can hurt u so much that u have to act like he doesnt exist

then u got some deep rooting issues my guy

I don’t know what you’re talking about. We’s simple folk over here. Wasn’t too many people on this side watching Mad About You, listening to The Beatles & Eminem talk about hating his mother. Didn’t go well between State Prop & Fab :sadbron:
 

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Never been a fan, but i give him his just, he’s among a full list of autotune, mumble rap, no skill having musicians

Its like Kendrick dont have to drop anything except for like every other year and still win 5 hip hop awards because the competition is garbage

Its like 80s lakers and Celtics type run
 

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I just know I'm going to be extremely disappointed when this nikka stops making music. nikka damn near had the whole soundtrack to my high school years (09-12) and that timeline of his music is undeniably the best. Whenever drake drop, you know it's gone be a good time.
 

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I don’t know what you’re talking about. We’s simple folk over here. Wasn’t too many people on this side watching Mad About You, listening to The Beatles & Eminem talk about hating his mother. Didn’t go well between State Prop & Fab :sadbron:
The first State Property album sold like 52k units first week meanwhile Em released The Eminem Show, the 8 Mile Soundtrack and 8 Mile all within the same year.

You sure Em doesnt exist?
 

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I agree w/ Op.

He may not put out the best music IMO but he definitely has the longest run and the scary thing is I don't see anyone who can take it away from him
 
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The first State Property album sold like 52k units first week meanwhile Em released The Eminem Show, the 8 Mile Soundtrack and 8 Mile all within the same year.

You sure Em doesnt exist?

Couldn’t tell you what it sold nor could the people that played the mixtapes before they even released an album. Then again if you were familiar that wouldn’t have been the point to try to make. All I know is what WASN’T getting played which was Eminem by 01



By your outsider logic this was the jam at your prom. If I remember correctly this sold very well!
 

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Dog Drake can get anybody out of there on a versus, whether its 10 records vs, 20 records vs, 30 records vs, 40 records vs....
Disagree unless we strictly talking charted singles, then yeah. If we going by the best cuts dudes got period, lotta nikkas can give Drake trouble...

But look, he aint light work for anyone, that isnt what I said or intimated...
2015 is late as hell ain’t no way

And Drake was definitely more popping than Kendrick at that time (2012)

Kendrick was aided in his put on by Drake given his own interlude on Take Care and then had a Drake feature on one of the biggest songs from GKMC

You can honestly argue as early as 2009 he was the buzziest rapper, in 2011 he took over that Take Care album has not stopped charting since. Take Care sold like 400,000 more copies than GKMC first week shyt wasn’t close.

Future also wasn’t right there he had fell off (around the time Thug, Migos, RHQ, Fetty, Speaker Knockerz start blowing up) some before he ramped up with his 2015 mixtape run of Monster, 56 Nights, Beast Mode and then DS2 and the WATTBA tape with Drake. That’s when he distinguished himself as a superstar. He wasn’t that before then, a lot of people made fun of Turn On The Lights and a lot of names were bigger pre-2015.
Drake had buzz dating to late '08, but I'm not in disagreement that he had the most buzz behind him...

Drake was not the biggest rapper in '11, it was nowhere near definitive at that point. Wayne had hella anticipation for C4, Ross was in the middle of his peak (cats on this board really undervalue Ross' work and in the early 10s he definitely had more burn in the streets than Drake); MMG and Meek and Wale were ascending; Ye and Jay dropped Watch The Throne and this is right after My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy; Nicki was still ascending...

Drake was popping but he hadn't yet separates himself. So that's 2011, the year several posters in here have suggested...

I don't know how it was playing in NY, but K Dot had been ascending and building momentum on The Coast since 2010, TDE as a collective was ascending. His intro to most East Coasters may have been via Take Care but many if us knew him from OD and there are those who knew him before that. When he dropped Good Kid Maad City he established himself as a leader of the new batch with Drake, I don't at all remember a consensus that Drake was better...

It's already established that Drake had a push that no one else had, this goes back to years earlier, and he's an actor turned musician, nobody was gonna outsell him. His fan base started out larger and wasn't organic as nikkas like Meek and Dot who'd been grinding for years...

2012 I think was when Ye and Jay toured and Ross was still at his apex, Future already had a bit of a cult following from his connections in The A and instantly grew his fan base...

I don't think, given Ross' peak run and the buzz on Ye and Jay and a declining Wayne, thar Drake was 2012's biggest rapper. You could argue for him bit it wasn't definitive. 2013, there was massive anticipation for Nothing Was The Same and most people in real time considered it underwhelming. I liked it, but it wasn't like the most fire drop ever, and other nikkas like Meek were still ascending...

He didn't drop in '14, Chance released maybe the GOAT tape to that point of the decade, Krit was on the rise, Cole was riding his best drop and ascending, Kendrick hadn't dropped in 2 years and was still ascending and growing his fan base, etc...

'15 was the year to me, because he really had the first important drop of the year, and it met the anticipation, from an artistic standpoint its arguably his best work to date, and the fact he dropped that in a GOAT year of many classics, then dropped another late in the year with Future, this is when he started separating...

Features or lack thereof never really affected Kendrick prior, and I think The Blacker The Berry is a timeless piece that is one of the 15 or so greatest rap albums ever, but Drake was so much all over everything in 2015, when you add that + his 2 classics in one year, this is when Drake took the mantle. And by 2016 he rode that momentum higher and kept it consistently going...

There is no "right" answer ti this question, I'm just stating why I say 2015. We all are gonna define "big" somewhat differently and if it's strictly about sales or mass appeal then sure, give Drake the crown going back to '09. I'm more talking about popularity + hype + the art matching both = separating from the competition...

There was no separation from the other top guys before 2015, not that I remember seeing...
 

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I love how we’re all pretending ‘Eminem doesn’t exist :skip:


If ppl are talking about numbers ‘Em had a longer run …and whatever stimulus you say Em had you can apply damn near the same to Drake .

If we’re not talking about numbers that’s a different story but that’s when it gets subjective

I’ll say 2016 ..it was apparent at that point

2015 you could argue but Fetty was EVERYWHERE.
Nobody I know in my personal life bumps Eminem
 

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You only gave Kanye a year? It was more than a couple years

But yeah, Drake's reign on top is endless...still doesn't have any music as classic as who you mentioned tho
 

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Disagree unless we strictly talking charted singles, then yeah. If we going by the best cuts dudes got period, lotta nikkas can give Drake trouble...

But look, he aint light work for anyone, that isnt what I said or intimated...

Drake had buzz dating to late '08, but I'm not in disagreement that he had the most buzz behind him...

Drake was not the biggest rapper in '11, it was nowhere near definitive at that point. Wayne had hella anticipation for C4, Ross was in the middle of his peak (cats on this board really undervalue Ross' work and in the early 10s he definitely had more burn in the streets than Drake); MMG and Meek and Wale were ascending; Ye and Jay dropped Watch The Throne and this is right after My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy; Nicki was still ascending...

Drake was popping but he hadn't yet separates himself. So that's 2011, the year several posters in here have suggested...

I don't know how it was playing in NY, but K Dot had been ascending and building momentum on The Coast since 2010, TDE as a collective was ascending. His intro to most East Coasters may have been via Take Care but many if us knew him from OD and there are those who knew him before that. When he dropped Good Kid Maad City he established himself as a leader of the new batch with Drake, I don't at all remember a consensus that Drake was better...

It's already established that Drake had a push that no one else had, this goes back to years earlier, and he's an actor turned musician, nobody was gonna outsell him. His fan base started out larger and wasn't organic as nikkas like Meek and Dot who'd been grinding for years...

2012 I think was when Ye and Jay toured and Ross was still at his apex, Future already had a bit of a cult following from his connections in The A and instantly grew his fan base...

I don't think, given Ross' peak run and the buzz on Ye and Jay and a declining Wayne, thar Drake was 2012's biggest rapper. You could argue for him bit it wasn't definitive. 2013, there was massive anticipation for Nothing Was The Same and most people in real time considered it underwhelming. I liked it, but it wasn't like the most fire drop ever, and other nikkas like Meek were still ascending...

He didn't drop in '14, Chance released maybe the GOAT tape to that point of the decade, Krit was on the rise, Cole was riding his best drop and ascending, Kendrick hadn't dropped in 2 years and was still ascending and growing his fan base, etc...

'15 was the year to me, because he really had the first important drop of the year, and it met the anticipation, from an artistic standpoint its arguably his best work to date, and the fact he dropped that in a GOAT year of many classics, then dropped another late in the year with Future, this is when he started separating...

Features or lack thereof never really affected Kendrick prior, and I think The Blacker The Berry is a timeless piece that is one of the 15 or so greatest rap albums ever, but Drake was so much all over everything in 2015, when you add that + his 2 classics in one year, this is when Drake took the mantle. And by 2016 he rode that momentum higher and kept it consistently going...

There is no "right" answer ti this question, I'm just stating why I say 2015. We all are gonna define "big" somewhat differently and if it's strictly about sales or mass appeal then sure, give Drake the crown going back to '09. I'm more talking about popularity + hype + the art matching both = separating from the competition...

There was no separation from the other top guys before 2015, not that I remember seeing...
You type too much.

2012 is when he cemented himself as a tier 1 act

2015 is when he separated himself from his peers

2018 is when he ended the greatest rap career convos that included Jay and Wayne

‘everything since 2018 has been stat padding and it looking like that 500 mill advance he got in 2021 was discount for the label
 
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