Drake must really be making Jay-Z anxious

[Lifer11]

50 mixtape grind was the last genre changing event in Hiphop. That is a fact.

Kanye changed the genre more than 50, for better or worse.

 

[ItsTheRoc]

conTROLLaaa!


P.S.
We Need A Board!...Mods gotta start banning these blasphemous threads....And Mr Elaine had a nerve to dap this and wonder nobody takes him serious

 

[Surreal]

You're way off with this. Without those artists and the classic albums they dropped rap wouldn't be the biggest and most influential genre/culture in the world right now, and arguably in the history of music, and Jay is at the forefront of all of that.

 

[Jermio]

How can you even compare them? Jay Z's era was before the internet was even remotely as huge as it is. Yet he was still famous and bigger than Drake was. So people talked about him more than they talk about Drake today.

You exaggerate this. What's unique about Drake is how continuous his presence has been. He didn't take any Frank Ocean sabbaticals, he didn't have commercial flops (even though I don't think Views is good), artists/peers remix and freestyle off his beats (Marvin's Room etc.). I'm talking a qualitative sense that Drake is saturating this lane more than anyone in recent times. I question his ability to craft a classic album, but Drake can very casually put out songs that make waves at a tempo that's new to rap.

 

[Lifer11]

I don't know what's funny about that. Besides the eye test I'll just leave this here...

Study: Hip-hop is more important than The Beatles - CNN.com

(CNN) "Forget The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, the most important development in pop music in the past half century is hip-hop.

That's not an opinion, it's fact -- backed up by hard data, says a team of researchers from two London universities.
In a study published Wednesday in the journal Royal Society Open Science, the researchers say they threw out "musical lore and aesthetic judgment" in favor of scientific rigor."

Old white people are doing studies that set out to prove the most influential and important musical genre and coming up with hip-hop and actually admitting it to major media outlets.

 

[GeeEffKay]

at his point all 6fraud and his stans have is his popularity

dude dropped a dud and has full on gone pop mode

 

[3xecDreamChaser]

50 mixtape grind was the last genre changing event in Hiphop. That is a fact.

You're forgetting about the trap genre. Specifically young thugs grind. He made mumbling over a trap beat cool and popular to do. Lots of people wouldn't be here without him. Madeintyo, Lil Uzi Vert, Desiigner, etc. Future also impacted the trap game with his mixtapes and especially his DS2 album.

 

[3xecDreamChaser]

You exaggerate this. What's unique about Drake is how continuous his presence has been. He didn't take any Frank Ocean sabbaticals, he didn't have commercial flops (even though I don't think Views is good), artists/peers remix and freestyle off his beats (Marvin's Room etc.). I'm talking a qualitative sense that Drake is saturating this lane more than anyone in recent times. I question his ability to craft a classic album, but Drake can very casually put out songs that make waves at a tempo that's new to rap.

And Jay Z didn't saturate his line?
You think Drake is more popular than Jay Z?

 

[Surreal]

You're forgetting about the trap genre.

I'm trying to

 

[CrimsonTider]

You said there's no fever around Jay dropping a new project, not only is there fever around him dropping a new project there's fever around him dropping 1 verse.

And rap is dictated by internet nerds on message boards now, I don't even know real street dudes who have time to discuss music on a regular basis anymore and the people I know who get excited over Drake's music in real life to the point that they actually discuss it are straight noodles or chicks.

No there is no fever from the people the tastemakers of rap 16-23 year olds.

and Im not talking about street dudes

But women and young men that are out and about and social determine whats popping in rap.

If it was up message boards Freddie Gibbs, Kendrick and rappers from the 90s would still be the most popular

 

[CrimsonTider]

And Jay Z didn't saturate his line?
You think Drake is more popular than Jay Z?

He's acting like Jay z didnt drop an album every year for damn near 12 years straight and multiple in one year at a time

 

[Wiles]

We have free music now, and I wasn't talking about this you fukking disgusting hater you. I bet every post since you signed up has been about Drake. You are probably that Quentinmiller poster.

We had free music back then and the biotleg gsme was crazy but continue

 

[lucky lefty]

Can't fathom the amt of cocoa butter OP had to use on his knees to get rid of the rug burns after he spent however many hours it took sucking dikk to afford the amt of heroin u'd have to inject to become brainless enough to think the GOAT our Flow Lord and Lyrical Savior Hova Da Gawd at even his weakest ain't shytting on the entire existences of Queen Aubrey & Her Woes of The Writers Block Roundtable aka Jimmy Cochran & Associates LLAC (Limited Lyrical Ability Corp) aka Kike & The Ghostwriting Gang

Ffs the GOAT Hov ain't been in his prime in a decade & he's still shytting on Kirby Graham aka Do Rogue And Kopy Everything aka Swag Tsung aka Kike Moist Dee aka KikeRS-One aka LL Kike J aka Jewpac Shakike in every way imaginable as a rapper, businessman, & heterosexual

Not to mention he defecated all over Pissy Elliott aka Piss Stain Papi aka Ludapiss aka Goldenshowerface Killah aka Pissy Smalls the Notorious DEPENDS aka Pisstikal aka Aubrina The Teenage Snitch aka Aubrey Herpburn aka Aubrey Onassis the First Ladyboy on Light Up & Pound Cake even worst than TI's homie in the theatre

Can't forget him lyrically sodomizing Six Fraud aka Shim Gawd on We Made It then boiling the corpse in acid on They Don't Love You No More & leaving Drizzy Vanilli aka Simp Doggy Dogg so shook of them few bars on Pop Style he was willing to sell his barmiztvah chair to cop a new 16 from one of his indentured ink servants

 

[MouseTeeth]

i dont think Jay has much to worry about with drake considering he just dropped two records out of the blue and one of them shut the internet down....jay his whole career was never the "biggest" artist during any year during his run, he always played the steady game, he's consistent and is the tortoise in the race basically...he'll never have to worry about drake, when drake is 20 years deep then we can talk

 

[BamdaDon]

50 mixtape grind was the last genre changing event in Hiphop. That is a fact.

You obviously haven't listened to future breh.