Dring:"Certain developers and publishers have spoken to me saying they're baffled by Xbox's new strategy and they wonder why make an Xbox version"

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So why is xbox selling less consoels this generation and less than the generation before that if everyone is “staying put”?

"It's just not true that if we go off and build great games all of a sudden you're going to see console share shift in some dramatic way. "We lost the worst generation to lose in the Xbox One generation, where everybody built their digital library of games."

-The guy you hate
 

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Also the idea that xbox has just fallen off a cliff in sales this gen is also some made up sony stan stuff.

Xbox one was around 35mill 5 years in as well.

If you stop with the console wars and compare each to their own, all 3 have a bit less as time has gone on.

In a weird way Nintendo wins the console war in terms of raw sales numbers, but compared to their own best they’ve lost the most users.

Nobody will be honest about the industry cause everybody is trying to win the war for their favorite box :manny:
 

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Also the idea that xbox has just fallen off a cliff in sales this gen is also some made up sony stan stuff.

Xbox one was around 35mill 5 years in as well.

If you stop with the console wars and compare each to their own, all 3 have a bit less as time has gone on.

In a weird way Nintendo wins the console war in terms of raw sales numbers, but compared to their own best they’ve lost the most users.

Nobody will be honest about the industry cause everybody is trying to win the war for their favorite box :manny:

:mjlol:
 

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Also the idea that xbox has just fallen off a cliff in sales this gen is also some made up sony stan stuff.

Xbox one was around 35mill 5 years in as well.

If you stop with the console wars and compare each to their own, all 3 have a bit less as time has gone on.

In a weird way Nintendo wins the console war in terms of raw sales numbers, but compared to their own best they’ve lost the most users.

Nobody will be honest about the industry cause everybody is trying to win the war for their favorite box :manny:


Console numbers across the board are down but PS5 is still outpacing the PS4 sales by 7% while Series X is 19% BEHIND the Xbox One. This was widely reported by Circana in March. It's very obvious who already lost the console wars this gen :mjlol:
 

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Console numbers across the board are down but PS5 is still outpacing the PS4 sales by 7% while Series X is 19% BEHIND the Xbox One. This was widely reported by Circana in March. It's very obvious who already lost the console wars this gen :mjlol:
You think that's crazy, ask him about the console generation before Xbox one.

But yea, everyone stays in their own ecosystem.

:russ:
 

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Actual studies and surveys>>>>>>>>Sony stan musings :ehh:

I don’t think you actually understand what this means
cac studies/cac surveys. :manny:
 

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Console numbers across the board are down but PS5 is still outpacing the PS4 sales by 7% while Series X is 19% BEHIND the Xbox One. This was widely reported by Circana in March. It's very obvious who already lost the console wars this gen :mjlol:
You are talking about the U.S. numbers. Worldwide is a bit different.

PS5 is slightly behind ps4 worldwide.

Xbox numbers are hard to come by but estimates put them pretty close.



Both were estimated around 35 mill, 5 years in.
 

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Most people aren’t making a Playstation VS xbox choice either.

But that’s the narrative that helps some of you sleep at night.
I agree with you. The decision became so obvious to them they really weren’t forced to choose.

If you wanna sit back and act like Xbox wasn’t trying to appeal to the PlayStation consumer you’re crazy. It’s just that they mostly failed at it.

At this point the only people who care about Xbox hardware are Game Pass subs. Everyone else knows they’ll be served elsewhere.
 

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No. This is the narrative you console warriors want to promote.

In reality when studies have been done by independent analysts and consultants they determined that people chose their brand/ecosystem and stay put.

Same way you can argue that nintendo has its base that’s catered to and unaffected by other hardware options. Sony has the same. And microsoft their own too.

This stuff yall fight about on forums is not informing the average consumer.
We watched in real time as the PS3 sold less and the Xbox 360 sold more. We then watched the next generation where the Xbox One sold less and the PS4 sold more.

We heard Phil Spencer admit in an interview that was the worst generation to lose to Sony. So we should believe you over the company CEO? Sure you obviously know more than him.
 

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If console wars and the tribalism on here weren’t a thing, meach and titan would actually be willing to argue against one another as they are making two opposing arguments right now.

they know they can’t do that though
 

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We watched in real time as the PS3 sold less and the Xbox 360 sold more. We then watched the next generation where the Xbox One sold less and the PS4 sold more.
If you check 360 sales. It was at 40 million
Xbox 360 sales top 40 million around 5 years in.

So again xbox is not far off from its historic self.
We heard Phil Spencer admit in an interview that was the worst generation to lose to Sony. So we should believe you over the company CEO? Sure you obviously know more than him.
Nothing i said, contradicts what he said.

Like i said. Yall are too stuck talking about a console war.

I simply said if you compare each to their historic selves you get a better picture of where each of them stand today.

Put down your bayonets sony stans :cheers:
 

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I agree with you. The decision became so obvious to them they really weren’t forced to choose.

If you wanna sit back and act like Xbox wasn’t trying to appeal to the PlayStation consumer you’re crazy. It’s just that they mostly failed at it.

At this point the only people who care about Xbox hardware are Game Pass subs. Everyone else knows they’ll be served elsewhere.
“the nintendo consumer” means nintendo is in their own lane.

“the playstation consumer” means xbox success only resides in some dumb ass console war with sony.

you stans need to take a break.
 

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"nintendo is in their own lane"

went from 13 million Wii U sales to 150 million Switch Sales

:mjlol:

when will these folks admit that Games make the console.
 
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