Dwyane Wade says Kobe Bryant is the greatest player of his era

[Regular_P]

Duncan is also a much more unselfish team oriented player. Some of Kobe's production comes at the expense of his teammates.

If I had to start a franchise right now and my choice between an 18 year old Kobe or Duncan, I'd take Duncan 10 times out of 10.

Duncan has sacrificed his whole career. He's never attempted more than 18 shots per game even at his peak even though he clearly could have demanded 20 shots a night. He's been the foundation of a Spurs team that has been through 3 different iterations without missing a beat. He's been a force defensively and on the boards and allowed TP to ascend. His impact can't be quantified by numbers. He's been a great leader. He's been the key to Pop being able to get other guys to sacrifice and put the team first. Only reason he's not recognized is because he's a lame and plays in SA.

So when Duncan let TP take over the team, he was sacrificing, but when Kobe was letting Shaq be the focal point of the team, he wasn't sacrificing?

You want to say Kobe's more selfish, yet his style of play has led him to five championships and seven Finals appearances.

 

[Swagnificent]

Duncan is also a much more unselfish team oriented player. Some of Kobe's production comes at the expense of his teammates.

If I had to start a franchise right now and my choice between an 18 year old Kobe or Duncan, I'd take Duncan 10 times out of 10.

I'd take Kobe 10 outta 10 times. See how easy that is. You act like going against the grain makes you right. This is all personal opinion. It just so happens that more people in the know (former/current players, coaches, GMs) pick Kobe over anyone else in this era.

Why is it hard to just accept the fact that you Kobe haters are OUT OF STEP with people who've played and coached the game. All the former/current greats and coaches continually heap nothing but praise on Kobe. It must really bother you guys that your favorite players favorite player is Kobe.

 

[holidayinn21]

i thought this was common knowledge.

 

[HacksawJimThuggin]

prime Timmy > prime Kobe

 

[Street Knowledge]

If we're defining Kobe's era 00-10(which was his prime)

I don't know how you can say he wasnt the player of his era

8X ALL NBA 1st team
8X ALL defensive 1st team
10X All star
League Mvp
2X finals MVP
7 finals Appearances
5 Championships
2 Scoring Titles

28.5 PPG/5.8 RPG/5.4 APG/1.8 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS

 

[Swagnificent]

If we're defining Kobe's era 00-10(which was his prime)

I don't know how you can say he wasnt the player of his era

8X ALL NBA 1st team
8X ALL defensive 1st team
10X All star
League Mvp
2X finals MVP
7 finals Appearances
5 Championships
2 Scoring Titles

28.5 PPG/5.8 RPG/5.4 APG/1.8 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS

half those years spent sharing the ball with another 28ppg scorer.....imagine Kobe's PPG if he never played with Shaq

nikka prolly woulda had multiple 35ppg seasons instead of just one

 

[Da King]

Its not disrespectful. It would have been disrespectful if he said Dirk, KG or a player like that. Not someone who is just as accomplished as he is.

Duncan: 4 chips, 3 Finals MVPS, 2 MVPs>>>Kobe 5 chips, 2 finals MVPs, 1 MVP


also Duncan 10x the defender Kobe

 

[Swagnificent]

Duncan: 4 chips, 3 Finals MVPS, 2 MVPs>>>Kobe 5 chips, 2 finals MVPs, 1 MVP


also Duncan 10x the defender Kobe

yet Kobe got more all-defense 1st team selections

you can have Duncan......I'll take Kobe.....and I bet we'd beat ya in the playoffs everytime......just like Kobe's done continuously to Duncan whenever he's played the Spurs

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Well D Wade is so he must be talmbout "last" era. Today's era belongs to LeBron Raymone James.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

yet Kobe got more all-defense 1st team selections

you can have Duncan......I'll take Kobe.....and I bet we'd beat ya in the playoffs everytime......just like Kobe's done continuously to Duncan whenever he's played the Spurs

 

[FTBS]

So when Duncan let TP take over the team, he was sacrificing, but when Kobe was letting Shaq be the focal point of the team, he wasn't sacrificing?

You want to say Kobe's more selfish, yet his style of play has led him to five championships and seven Finals appearances.

Where did I say this? I responded to a post that referenced Kobe's sacrifice by pointing to the fact that Duncan sacrificed as well. nikkas be way to sensitive when it comes to Kobe.

A) I didn't say anything about Kobe being selfish.
B) Since you brought it up are you gonna deny that Kobe is more selfish then Tim?
C) Kobe is a great player no doubt about it and among the best of the best all time. He was a key contributor to all 5 of the Lakers most recent titles. However can we please, please stop acting like those 5 rings are a function of his approach more so than playing for one of the greatest orgs ever and having great teammates and coaches? Once again that's not to say that he wasn't a key contributor but nikkas act like those 5 rings put him above reproach. Let's not act like that same approach isn't greatly responsible for the worst 3 year period since they moved to LA. Duncan in LA prolly has 7 or 8 rings right now.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Duncan: 4 chips, 3 Finals MVPS, 2 MVPs>>>Kobe 5 chips, 2 finals MVPs, 1 MVP


also Duncan 10x the defender Kobe

Kobe

5× NBA champion (2000–2002, 2009–2010)
2× NBA Finals MVP (2009–2010)
NBA Most Valuable Player (2008)
15× NBA All-Star (1998, 2000–2013)
4× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2002, 2007, 2009, 2011)
2× NBA scoring champion (2006–2007)
10× All-NBA First Team (2002–2004, 2006–2012)
2× All-NBA Second Team (2000–2001)
2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2005)
9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000, 2003–2004, 2006–2011)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2001–2002, 2012)


Duncan

4× NBA champion (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007)
3× NBA Finals MVP (1999, 2003, 2005)
2× NBA Most Valuable Player (2002–2003)
14× NBA All-Star (1998, 2000–2011, 2013)
9× All-NBA First Team (1998–2005, 2007)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2006, 2008–2009)
All-NBA Third Team (2010)
8× All-Defensive First Team (1999–2003, 2005, 2007–2008)
5× All-Defensive Second Team (1998, 2004, 2006, 2009–2010)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1998)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1998)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (2000)

Also Kobe is 10x the offensive player Duncan is.

 

[MoneyTron]

Duncan won the 2005 and 2007 titles.

Yeah but his individual dominance was on the downswing after 2007 or so.

Wade has seen both drop off but Kobe is still putting up high numbers.

 

[Da King]

Also Kobe is 10x times the offensive player Duncan is.

efficiency and minutes played says otherwise

 

[GreatestLaker]

efficiency and minutes played says otherwise

Are you really trying to argue that breh?