I'm sure if intelligent people weren't less than 5% of the population we would've had universal healthcare by now. This one graph (I've posted it a billion times) should convince EVERYONE that we should have universal healthcare.
Dylan Ratigan's Health Plan goes from $170 to $600 under Obamacare. . .
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This brings up a crucial point...a lot of countries people seem to "look up to" are REALLY homogeneous and are thus more apt to adopt polices that seem so desirable...since most people are already on the same page.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
So the answer to solving America's health care issues revolve around making America more homogenous.
Richard Wright
Living Legend
Why the fukk do yall n!ggas keep bringing up these subsidies?!
Newsflash: The tax dollars that these same folks give to the federal government is where those subsidies come from. They pay for the insurance, and they pay for the subsidy. It's ALL their money. So why would I post that?
to make things worse, the money from subsidies still goes to the monopolistic insurance companies whose lobbyists wrote the legislation in the first place
.we have a 16 trillion dollar gdp. everyone having healthcare, food , and shelter should not be a problem. Poor white people would rather be mad at black people though
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Do you think that people who don't contribute to to the gdp deserve to reap the benefits of it?
way to miss the point
Its that people are less likely to be altruistic to other people when they can't identify with them...or harbor notions that make it hard to identify with others.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
way to miss the point
Its that people are less likely to be altruistic to other people when they can't identify with them...or harbor notions that make it hard to identify with others.
Is that how/why you got jerked out of 14k?
It sounds like you're not very competent/confident socially.
He ran Bloomberg and is worth about 9 million dollars.Dude is playing with shyt.He don't give a fukk.
Richard Wright
Living Legend
I would have said no not very long ago, but the only alternative is facism. We need to move beyond the monetary system in general or we need a way to provide higher education on a massive scale. Things like MIT open courseware are a start. I do not believe in land ownership, but I do believe in intellectual property. What do you expect of the guy from the hood whose family has no assets? You just want him to die? The social contract will not hold up very long as wealth becomes increasingly concentrated and jobs become harder to get.
And since a large part of that GDP is govt spending, how can you say people do not contribute? You can not make any moves in this world without opportunity and resources.
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Do you take issue with fascism? You want to completely recreate education and want to do away with private property? That sounds like fascism. Are you French?
What is open courseware going to actually provide for people not on some altruistic/ hippie bullshyt level? Their employers gain what exactly? America will go from a barely trained workforce to what exactly? One thing I've found about education it takes more than wanting to learn and money. You'll always have classes.
The guy from the hood? He can take out federal and state loans and get himself a degree and have a great future. You can learn a trade and build off of that. If he's about that life he can buy ounces then quarters break it down a hundred a gram. There's a lot of ways to change your situation.
Richard Wright
Living Legend
You seem to just oppose everything at once. There is a huge difference between the abolishment of all private property and the acknowledgement that land ownership is completely arbitrary. "I got here first" is complete bullshyt. You can not expect these people to just 'learn a trade' and solve all of their problems. Young people are too in debt to do that. The game is rigged. Im just glad I have made it to where I am and that I have been able to achieve a large degree of success for myself relative to my age.
I think the saddest part of growing up and going to college has been coming to the realization that everyone in America is given a one in 100 shot to do things that most people will never have, but most of us waste that shot. However, the social darwinist , objectivist way of thinking you seem to be advocating just completely disregards the role that force has played in the world's getting to its current state. So people that came before me, who have passed down land and other forms of capital that they acquired by the barrel of a gun are allowed that advantage, while I am forced to accept government monopoly on force?
I think the key distinction I am trying to make is that Rockefeller, for example, deserved his fortune because of his scientific method, nit because he had access to the land from which the oil came. The idea that the earth can be owned is the biggest hoax in history. Let us not forget there was a time in which all land belonged to the king,because 'God said so'.
I am not necessarily advocating any particular solution to the problems of this world, but acting as if health care is something that people could not easily have unlimited access to outside of the restrictions of the monetary system is just silly.
You seem to be extremely dismissive of MIT opencourse, did you graduate from /go to college(genuinely asking)? That shyt is an amazing resource.
Richard Wright
Living Legend
You are just completely wrong, how would costs magically disappear? By passing them onto the middle class on whom the tax burden is already heavy? Unless technology improves, costs will never decrease.
It's just time to accept that big insurance and big pharma pulled a fast one.
30-something million americans will have healthcare that don't currently have it. This is bad, why?
You know what's just fukking staggering? That the people who mainly oppose a national healthcare system (which we didn't get) are republicans. Republicans who are loudly pro-Jesus.
And holy fukking monkey shyt balls, what the fukk could be more Jesus-like than caring for sick people?
But no, only if private insurance companies can squeeze a few more dollars out.
Eat a dikk.
Bernie Madoff
Banned
Exactly. This isn't a single parent making 30k a year, this is a millionaire having to pay an extra few grand a year.