EA: "We had nothing to do with Xbox One's DRM policy"

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:rudy::rudy: have you read his posts ? The guy dismisses the idea of people not having Internet and saying you shouldn't even buy a system if you don't have it , he says its a small portion of people that don't have Internet which isn't true . He then tried to spin it :skip: not to mention his response for the unnecessary implementation of the 24 hr check in was a remark about psn. Everything I said was a response to his pompous attitude

:mindblown: what pompous attitude. The link you posted said 2/3 of Americans have home Internet and the ones that don't have smartphones. I think that proves that the majority of Americans could use an X1. Does it not?


Did you watch e3? I can't remeber any game that didn't talk about some type of connected experience.

Yes it sucks that some people can't get the Internet. But that doesn't mean developers should gimp their games cause a small minority of potential customers don't have the Internet.
 

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Actually with smartphones you are more likely to have an Internet connection than power in the case of an emergency.

And I do look forward to them adressing the concerns about XBL going down. I would assume that it's easy to put a failsafe in the system that would unlock play for all X1 indefinitely if the servers go offline or get shut off. That is a legitimate concern and one they should address before November.

They better.

I guess you can tether your phone to get your XB1 online to authenticate. But just callin MS won't do you anygood since Live needs to talk to the actual box.

Xbox Live can go down, but not Azure. So maybe they have that setup as a "backup" of some sorts.
 

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You are only one type of consumer. Your needs/desires are not indicative of mainstream America.

People said "I don't need all that in my phone" before the iphone came out and look at it now. People also scoffed at the idea of the iPad because their laptop could do all of that.


Some people will be left out, but those people are a very small minority of the population. Especially with smart phones and mobile 3G like Clear. It's not very difficult to get an online connection. Those that can't shouldn't be buying a next gen console anyway because most games will be centered around online connectivity. There will be a small minority of games that can be used totally offline, and even those games will be severely gimped by being disconnected.

Basically offline gaming in 2014 is :old:
This post is pompous . Your completely dismissing a section of gamers just so ms can try and enforce the drm. Even iPads and smartphone s work offline . If I got out the country I can still play games and stuff with no 3G .
:mindblown: what pompous attitude. The link you posted said 2/3 of Americans have home Internet and the ones that don't have smartphones. I think that proves that the majority of Americans could use an X1. Does it not?


Did you watch e3? I can't remeber any game that didn't talk about some type of connected experience.

Yes it sucks that some people can't get the Internet. But that doesn't mean developers should gimp their games cause a small minority of potential customers don't have the Internet.

What are you talking about ?? Ms is the one requiring a 24 hour check in and how exactly is having a strong single player game gimping a product . And you keep saying a Small minority will be effected but you have no real figures and that's you trivializing people's real complaints . And your also forgetting areas of the country that have weak Internet signals in general :dahell: just to try and enforce drm.
Make no mistake I wouldn't support Sony if they did this either but they didn't , I don't like needing psn + but again it's not required for me to enjoy single player offline play .
 

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1/3 of America =/= to 1/3 of GAMERS or people with high end electronics. Big difference there. Also the 24 hour check in can be completed with a smartphone.

Your girl may not play online but she doesn't give a fukk whether her game automaticaly checks the servers once a day. And she will love the fact that her single player experience can change and evolve while she's not playing. Being connected doesn't mean you are playing multiplayer.

You said you like to play nba 2k. Some of the stuff they are talking about with connected experiences sounds very cool. Dynamic AI that changes in real time with the strategies/tendencies of real players, lebron gets cold in real life, he get cold in your game. Up to the minute rosters, a trade happens while your at work, your game is automatically ready with the changes when you get home.

Sure you could play offline without these features, but would you really want to?

what the fukk are you even talking about? why on earth would someone want a single player game to change and evolve while they are not playing? aside from realtime games or sports sims, what type of single player game would realistically need or utilize an online connection? even with those types of games, the same exact result could be achieved with optional online connectivity. there is really no reason for a single player game to require an online connection. no reason at all.

The reason MS is catching hell is because they are presenting the Xbone as a continuation of console gaming instead of as something entirely new. By branding it as an Xbox, there are certain expectations as far as what constitutes a console gaming experience, many expectations of which are not being met. MS should have just given it a new name and said "this is not a console gaming device with an online connectivity requirement, this is an online gaming device".
 

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This post is pompous . Your completely dismissing a section of gamers just so ms can try and enforce the drm. Even iPads and smartphone s work offline . If I got out the country I can still play games and stuff with no 3G .
The only reason that discs are available is because they are trying to accommodate people with unreliable Internet service. If they were not trying to accommodate those people it would be all digital and they would not need drm. It would work exactly like an iphone.


What are you talking about ?? Ms is the one requiring a 24 hour check in and how exactly is having a strong single player game gimping a product . And you keep saying a Small minority will be effected but you have no real figures and that's you trivializing people's real complaints . And your also forgetting areas of the country that have weak Internet signals in general :dahell: just to try and enforce drm.
Make no mistake I wouldn't support Sony if they did this either but they didn't , I don't like needing psn + but again it's not required for me to enjoy single player offline play .
Again did you watch the e3 confrences? I'm talking about SINGLE PLAYER GAMES. They are still benefited by being online. Watch a trailer for watch dogs, the crew, need for speed, or plenty other games. These are one player games that benefit greatly from being connected.

Should developers waste resources on an "offline" mode and not use the almost infinite resources of the Internet because SOME people don't have access?
 

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what the fukk are you even talking about? why on earth would someone want a single player game to change and evolve while they are not playing? aside from realtime games or sports sims, what type of single player game would realistically need or utilize an online connection? even with those types of games, the same exact result could be achieved with optional online connectivity. there is really no reason for a single player game to require an online connection. no reason at all.
The industry AND the best games at this years E3 disagree with you:manny:


The reason MS is catching hell is because they are presenting the Xbone as a continuation of console gaming instead of as something entirely new. By branding it as an Xbox, there are certain expectations as far as what constitutes a console gaming experience, many expectations of which are not being met. MS should have just given it a new name and said "this is not a console gaming device with an online connectivity requirement, this is an online gaming device".
I agree their problems are purely PR. But as a gamer with an Internet connection I don't see how you can't be excited about the possibilities.
 

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Like rats jumping out of the titanic. fukk EA. They think we are stupid enough to believe they didn't have a hang in Microsoft losing their fukking minds!?!?!? I call Bullshyt!
 

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I think M$ would have prefered to go to a strictly digital download system. but that would have eliminated used games altogether, and clearly retailers and consumers weren't ready for that

in many ways, I think gamers have held themselves back by clinging onto this old crap. people want to have their cake and eat it: they want 2013 games, but they expect the simplicity of a NES
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it's my fukking cake I should be able to eat it if i wanna

it's my fukking video game, I paid for it... I should be able to trade, loan & resell as i please.

N yeah NES>>> Xbone
 
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