I'm bias to Special Ed because him and my cousin were very close friends and I would see him everyday in my building growing up, so I take him out of discussions because I can't be impartial
I think KRS is better lyrically than Moe Dee honestly.
Elite Eiht: LL Cool J vs. KRS-One
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I'm bias to Special Ed because him and my cousin were very close friends and I would see him everyday in my building growing up, so I take him out of discussions because I can't be impartial
I think KRS is better lyrically than Moe Dee honestly.
lol.. nothing to be impartial about.. Nygga was a helluva artist with 2 classic albums.
fukk the impartial..lol
I liked him better than Slick Rick in the story telling category.
i dont know man.
i can throw on some old treacherous three right now and be
as if it just dropped.silver fox is another possible candidate. i gotta get more up on him tho. him and percee p are dudes that i got up on thru sohh/the-coli.
i dont know man.
i can throw on some old treacherous three right now and be
silver fox is another possible candidate.
LOL I think it's the flow Moe Dee used. nikka sounded like a robot to me.
BmoreGorilla
Veteran
Thing I like about him tho is that even tho he was never the best lyricist he could always get his point across. Kinda like Cube. He never wasted any words. He could say in a few bars what some rappers take a whole verse to say. On top of that he can make a song about anything
Let's not act like KRS didn't get busy though in the 80s
We're not promoting violence, we're just havin some fun
He's Scott LaRock, I'm KRS-One
Never off-beat cause it don't make sense
Grab the microphone, relaxed and not tense
You waited, debated, and now you activated
A musical genius that could not be duplicated
See I have the formula for rockin the house
If you cannot rock a party do not open your mouth
It's that simple, no phony cosmetics to your pimple
Take another look because the gear is not wrinkled
The K, the R, the S, the O, the N, the E
Sayin rhyme for eighty-seven not from 1983
Well versed, to rehearse, and my rhymes are my curse
Originality come first but the suckers get worse
Allow me to include I have a very stable mood
Poetic education of a high altitude
I'm not an MC, so listen, call me poet or musician
A genius when it comes to making music with ambition
I'm cool, collected with the rhyme I directed
Don't wanna be elected as the king of a record
Just respected by others as the man with the solution
An artist of the 80's came and left his contribution
on wax, relax, there's 24 tracks
After years of rocking parties now I picked up the knack
Because everything that flows from out my larynx
Takes years of experience and bottles of Beck's
I cannot seem to recollect the time I didn't have sex
Is it real or is it Memorex?
I'm livin in a city known as New York State
Sucka MC's gotta wait while I translate
I hang with real live dreads with knowledge in their heads
People with ambition and straight up musicians
Although our lives have been so uprooted
I have it included, you all get zooted
So take each letter of the KRS-One
Means Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone
You look at me and laugh, but this is your class
It's an all-out discussion of the suckas I be crushin
So now you are awakened to the music I be makin
Never duplicated, and also highly cultivated
Don't get frustrated cause nothin has been traded
Only activated, it came out very complicated
Not separated, from my DJ
You see my voice is now faded
I'll see you folks around the way
We're not promoting violence, we're just havin some fun
He's Scott LaRock, I'm KRS-One
Never off-beat cause it don't make sense
Grab the microphone, relaxed and not tense
You waited, debated, and now you activated
A musical genius that could not be duplicated
See I have the formula for rockin the house
If you cannot rock a party do not open your mouth
It's that simple, no phony cosmetics to your pimple
Take another look because the gear is not wrinkled
The K, the R, the S, the O, the N, the E
Sayin rhyme for eighty-seven not from 1983
Well versed, to rehearse, and my rhymes are my curse
Originality come first but the suckers get worse
Allow me to include I have a very stable mood
Poetic education of a high altitude
I'm not an MC, so listen, call me poet or musician
A genius when it comes to making music with ambition
I'm cool, collected with the rhyme I directed
Don't wanna be elected as the king of a record
Just respected by others as the man with the solution
An artist of the 80's came and left his contribution
on wax, relax, there's 24 tracks
After years of rocking parties now I picked up the knack
Because everything that flows from out my larynx
Takes years of experience and bottles of Beck's
I cannot seem to recollect the time I didn't have sex
Is it real or is it Memorex?
I'm livin in a city known as New York State
Sucka MC's gotta wait while I translate
I hang with real live dreads with knowledge in their heads
People with ambition and straight up musicians
Although our lives have been so uprooted
I have it included, you all get zooted
So take each letter of the KRS-One
Means Knowledge Reigns Supreme Over Nearly Everyone
You look at me and laugh, but this is your class
It's an all-out discussion of the suckas I be crushin
So now you are awakened to the music I be makin
Never duplicated, and also highly cultivated
Don't get frustrated cause nothin has been traded
Only activated, it came out very complicated
Not separated, from my DJ
You see my voice is now faded
I'll see you folks around the way
BmoreGorilla
Veteran
His voice is straight stuck in the early 80s. Occasionally I still meet nikkas in their 50s who still talk like that.
Like when he said "I used to go Downtooown"
His voice is straight stuck in the early 80s. Occasionally I still meet nikkas in their 50s who still talk like that.
Like when he said "I used to go Downtooown"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BmoreGorilla
Veteran
The nikka at the beginning of this song is exactly how them nikkas from the early 80s sound
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Ed, Rick, Dana, Tracy, O Shea, Nathan etc Golden Era Storytelling
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Rakim Allah
Superstar
I didn't care for Moe Dee solo because he came off wack and a lot of songs were borderline corn but I always knew he could rap his azz off. Not until I went back and checked his Treacherous 3 joints did i begin to truly appreciate him. His solo sh!t is still hit or miss and gear game was wack as fuc but he had one the most perfect lyrical songs ever. The way he breaks down each verse is masterful.
In terms of Hip Hop I've heard KRS-One spoke about much more in his latter career than LL. Even if you look at a small microcosm of how many threads are made on KRS-One compared to LL I'm pretty confident KRS-One would have comfortably more. KRS made some noise and made Hip Hop heads check out some of his work with Hip Hop Lives with Marley Marl, Survival Skills, Meta-Historical, The BDP Album, the single that was supposed to be for the Premo album, some of the Mad Lion singles, some of these albums even charted, albeit not very high but that speaks to that it's getting heard by a HIP HOP audience. LL didn't even release that many albums in comparison to KRS-One. Even in LL's earlier career there was albums that were looked at as disappointments/drop offs, while KRS had a pretty solid run quality wise. Infact a pretty impeccable 7 album run, I can't say LL ever did that, or even near that, quality wise. Hip Hop heads I know speak to me about KRS-One regularly, even remember getting a call about the Godsville albumwith Showbiz. Didn't even mention the Bumpy album. It's true LL might have been popping more in the earlier 00's but in the from around 2007 KRS, as LL only released like 1 album so far after that, KRS released many.
Content is a category when you decide, it's not just about the content, but a dope MC over with content >>>> a dope MC with shallow content. The pop fans may like the no content rappers but in Hip Hop content matters a lot. Even in Kool Moe Dee's book there is a substance category, there's also a Social Impact category which is about trying to make a positive impact within the rhymes. These are values within Hip Hop culture and music. It's no coincidence Pac is the most loved MC ever, 1 of the reasons for that is the content, people often mention shyt like Keep Ya Head Up, Brenda's Got A Baby, Dear Mama when they speak of Pac, that's for a reason. KRS touched people on a deeper level than LL, I've known plenty of people where KRS has impacted their lives on a different deeper level than LL, LL made people wanna be a superstar, famous etc... KRS got people up intellectually, consciously and philosophically. He actually did teach people, KRS is more timeless than LL's music to me, KRS'S shyt still sounded crazy. LL's got classics too that are timeless but I don't think he has the consistency of KRS-One or the quantity of quality of KRS. KRS content is much more diverse, if someone prefers LL's that's fine but objectively KRS's is superior.
And I disagree, I think the opposite, the whole you can rhyme about any old bullshyt and be dope needs to stop cause that opens up the door for people who aren't saying shyt in their bars and talentless clowns with nothing to say.
KRS has some of the illest flows I've ever heard, and styles, he is the master of styles and flows. LL ain't even really approaching him in that category.