Elizabeth Warren unveils bold new plan to reshape America's richest companies

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They have said “fukk the American economy”.
No, fukk outta here with this nonsense. Your people are the ones who said fukk the American economy when they passed tax cuts that ballooned the deficit. There were multiple studies showing how damaging those cuts would be yet I don’t remember you speaking up then. Worker salaries have barely budged and jobs are still getting moved overseas, yet corporations are seeing healthy profit growth. But here you are sputtering like a true conservative business owner.

No plan is perfect but Progressives are trying to actually repair the damage from your side and protect people from the corporations that you love so much. It’s not a coincidence that the economy does better under democrats than republicans, but I’m sure you knew that.

Your obsession with protecting corporations that are trying to bleed the country dry is :scust:
 

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The right voted a conman into office, passed the most regressive tax cut imaginable, embraces the fact that American CEOs earn ungodly salaries while trying to bust up unions, and treats corporations as if they’re people... all while claiming to protect the real Americans.

But according to @DEAD7 and probably @Slystallion, it was the left who said fukk the American economy for trying to get more wealth into the hands of everyday Americans.

The mental gymnastics required to reach that conclusion is outstanding.
 

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:why:And we have the largest economy with our model...
What does that even mean?



There are better approaches...

Yea but thats after having a head start on all the other post ww2 industrial nations that had to repair all the damage caused by the war.
 

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Like I said, capital flight and business dislocation mean nothing to progressives at this point. It’s become a holy crusade against the 1%.
:wow:

Surely you can’t believe making it more advantageous to do business outside of America is helping American workers?

Business friendly policies with increased minimum wages* and reduced healthcare cost is imho, the way to go.

:patrice:when Obama was in office I heard the HL lefties claiming the debt/deficit spending doesn’t matter... now that rethugs have openly embraced it, it’s unconscionable.


The deficit does not affect day-to-day life for people in the US. The outcry over it was always nonsense.
deficits don't seem to matter for the US

I remember when people were screaming about the downfall of the US and all kinds of other crap and it never happened.

balanced budget talk is just nonsense and is usually used to railroad the poor out of services
We're the USA. The national debt doesn't matter too much cause we still have a huge GDP. Plus, we control the world's reserve currency.




 

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:yeshrug:And I have no problem or real interest in CEO pay or the pay of any other American not in public service...
I don’t believe it’s a zero sum game that requires pocket watching.
 

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Like I said, capital flight and business dislocation mean nothing to progressives at this point. It’s become a holy crusade against the 1%.
:wow:

Surely you can’t believe making it more advantageous to do business outside of America is helping American workers?

Business friendly policies with increased minimum wages* and reduced healthcare cost is imho, the way to go.

:patrice:when Obama was in office I heard the HL lefties claiming the debt/deficit spending doesn’t matter... now that rethugs have openly embraced it, it’s unconscionable.
Trump’s tax cuts are already making some businesses move overseas and/or close production in the US though. It’s already happening.

Business friendly policies haven’t worked out so well for the average worker since... ever. I’m ok with trying something new and seeing what happens. It’s not like average workers can lose wealth at a higher rate.

The difference is that the right is trying to use the debt/deficit that they created as an excuse to slash social welfare programs. We know it doesn’t matter to everyday Americans.
 

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Trump’s tax cuts are already making some businesses move overseas and/or close production in the US though. It’s already happening.

Business friendly policies haven’t worked out so well for the average worker since... ever. I’m ok with trying something new and seeing what happens. It’s not like average workers can lose wealth at a higher rate.

The difference is that the right is trying to use the debt/deficit that they created as an excuse to slash social welfare programs. We know it doesn’t matter to everyday Americans.

Trumps approach(lower taxes, deregulation) generally lowers barriers to entry into industries, which assists with improving innovation, entrepreneurship, competition, and efficiency, this(in theory) leads to lower prices for customers and improved quality... with the corporations(if any) big enough to uproot and leave because the tax reform was net negative for them(as you suggest), not really being who I think anyone wants to defend.

I expect this year to be surprisingly strong on paper for those at the top and the bottom, despite all the criticism, and I fully expect the left to credit some nonexistent Obama policy.
:yeshrug:
Those in the middle... :francis:




We are diametrically opposed on welfare programs so that just is what it is... I don’t see the issue there
 

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He revealed he works at a factory a week ago. That fakkit couldn't make a business and is talking about business :mjlol:

How you fail at a bar? You pay them 3 an hour and mark up the liquor 300% :laff:
:picard:Now I’m positive I fukked your girl...
What was her name?
 

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Trumps approach(lower taxes, deregulation) generally lowers barriers to entry into industries, which assists with improving innovation, entrepreneurship, competition, and efficiency, this(in theory) leads to lower prices for customers and improved quality... with the corporations(if any) big enough to uproot and leave because the tax reform was net negative for them(as you suggest), not really being who I think anyone wants to defend.

I expect this year to be surprisingly strong on paper for those at the top and the bottom, despite all the criticism, and I fully expect the left to credit some nonexistent Obama policy.
:yeshrug:
Those in the middle... :francis:




We are diametrically opposed on welfare programs so that just is what it is... I don’t see the issue there
The good old “the markets will save us” argument. Like I said, we’ve got decades of evidence that business friendly politics don’t do jack shyt to help the masses. You just said yourself that those in the middle are gonna get screwed so there’s no reason for you to continue supporting this nonsense.

I have absolutely no idea why you’d think that those at the bottom will do well either. That doesn’t even make sense.
 
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