Elizabeth Warren unveils bold new plan to reshape America's richest companies

[AnonymityX1000]

The medical system here is a joke.
My girl just got a letter saying her premiums were going up another $200 (its gone up something like $400+ the past few years).

So im not trying to defend ANYBODY on that front.

I just dont like the idea of black folks wanting larger government.

We should be focused on being independent.

It strikes me as odd that we dont have a business class...
...the only minority group that doesnt.

No matter your political leanings...you dont find it odd that the only outspoken right leaning black people tend to be of the troll variety (fox news, etc...)?

Truth is...in private, there are A LOT of black folks in business that lean to the right.
But were not allowed to speak freely amongst each other out of fear of being labeled a "c00n" (not to mention, Republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot by courting racist).

NOBDOY respects those that need assistance/handouts.
It keeps yourself in perpetual victim mode.

Government can only provide survival...but a group of people dependent on it will forever be in turmoil.

People in politics are just as power hungry as those in the private sector.


You named one hospital
Thats like naming one good public school and then forgetting the other atrocities around the country.

Please try and sell me on the idea that medicare is the best thing since sliced bread (and im somebody that thinks Medicare for all could be a good idea).

Nobody chooses that...youre on that when you have no options.

Being a Conservative is definitely a thing among some Black people and I'm fine with it. But being a Republican and being Black do not mix now because they are so blatantly racist as a party in this day and age. But ideals and what party is on what side of what issue change all the time. So it really isn't that important. That's why people should concentrate on individual issues not political parties.
All that talk about Blacks being independent means what regarding healthcare? Blacks creating a Black only medical network or something? We're 11% of the country and we're not everywhere like that for it to be feasible.

 

[jilla82]

Even a Libertarian study says Medicare for All saves $2 trillion over 10 years.

Plus, it'd be health, dental, vision included. No premiums or deductibles.

Federal health expenditures go up but in the end national health expenditures go down without the waste, fraud, and abuse of the insurance industry and 330 million people in one pool to negotiate drug prices and other things. Insurance companies are more bureaucratic than Medicare which has a low overhead.

Oh and you say government can only provide survival... yet thousands upon thousands die because of this health care system for profit.

I said in that post I was for Medicare for all.

you still don't understand what you're talking about...public is a category of hospitals..there are public and private...public not for profit...public for profit...etc etc etc


"you're on that when you have no options"...Medicare isn't an option for anyone under the age of 65

Dog...I know old folks w/ money that pay out of pocket because they dont want to deal w/ the system.

I know what im saying...you just only know what you know.

 

[jilla82]

Being a Conservative is definitely a thing among some Black people and I'm fine with it. But being a Republican and being Black do not mix now because they are so blatantly racist as a party in this day and age. But ideals and what party is on what side of what issue change all the time. So it really isn't that important. That's why people should concentrate on individual issues not political parties.
All that talk about Blacks being independent means what regarding healthcare? Blacks creating a Black only medical network or something? We're 11% of the country and we're not everywhere like that for it to be feasible.

I agree w/ all of this.

Im not in the healthcare fight.
I really think its a scam all around.

Small business owners are losing w/ Obamas half a plan...
...and people that work for themselves get majorly screwed with healthcare.

 

[EndDomination]

I fully believe that the electorate that chose to elect a multiple divorcee, draft dodging, multiple bankruptcy con man to the WH will interpret this as communism.

I'm sorry breh...I do not have that much faith in the American people

They fully believe any attempts towards economic equality is some commie ruse in order to stifle their chances of becoming billionaires.

Communism/Socialism is no longer the feared behemoth that it was during the Cold-War and the decade following its end.

 

[Pressure]

The government can actually be pretty effective when the right isn’t constantly obstructing shyt for no reason.

Social Security, Medicare, and the VA are all government run programs and they’ve each got pretty high approval ratings. I’ve dealt with each one directly through my work and they’re surprisingly thorough and responsive given their size.

Y’all are going into overdrive with the fear mongering about the government. They’re far from perfect but we’ve got mountains of evidence showing that corporations and “the markets” aren’t going to solve shyt, despite what conservatives say.

Repd

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So youre saying you support the concentration of money into fewer and fewer hands over time. Interesting

thats not whats being discussed...but we have to be realistic.

More and more companies have less incentive to stay put. They can pick up their operations and move anywhere in the world. You HAVE to consider that.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Communism/Socialism is no longer the feared behemoth that it was during the Cold-War and the decade following its end.

The places that have elected these Tea Party shytheads and Trumpers have been using the socialism and communism dog whistle with reckless abandon

We can no longer trust them to do what is actually in their best interest

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

More and more companies have less incentive to stay put. They can pick up their operations and move anywhere in the world. You HAVE to consider that.

Honestly, that should be illegal. Unless your company is at risk of bankruptcy/liquidation it shouldn't be allowed to move operations overseas to pay some third world national $2 per day for the benefit of stockholders.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Honestly, that should be illegal. Unless your company is at risk of bankruptcy/liquidation it shouldn't be allowed to move operations overseas to pay some third world national $2 per day for the benefit of stockholders.

Even if they do that though we can hit them with a tariff when they try to bring their products back home.
"No Escapin' This!"

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Dog...I know old folks w/ money that pay out of pocket because they dont want to deal w/ the system.

I know what im saying...you just only know what you know.

Negro puh-lease

You know nothing about the US healthcare system. You just keep throwing random ideas at the wall hoping they stick. You don't understand the complexities that go into hospital financing. There is no reason to even begin breaking down Medicare for you. There is no reason to continue this convo. Good day sir!

"have you been to a public hospital"

 

[Gus Money]

you still don't understand what you're talking about...public is a category of hospitals..there are public and private...public not for profit...public for profit...etc etc etc


"you're on that when you have no options"...Medicare isn't an option for anyone under the age of 65

It’s crazy how much info people don’t really know about Medicare. I barely knew anything about it until my most recent job, and anybody saying Medicare is for people with no options has lost all credibility. I’ve got clients fighting tooth and nail for Medicare once they understand how it works.

I said in that post I was for Medicare for all.


Dog...I know old folks w/ money that pay out of pocket because they dont want to deal w/ the system.

I know what im saying...you just only know what you know.

I’m not buying this but if you actually know someone who is eligible for Medicare but they’re paying out of pocket then you need to tell them to contact social security or an agency that can help them ASAP.

Dealing with the system comes with headaches if you’re not prepared or have issues limiting how much you can advocate for yourself. Doing a bit of research and/or asking for help goes a long way. They’ve got agencies all over the place that specifically help senior citizens with Medicare enrollment and alternate coverage.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

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[tru_m.a.c]

We need more centrism brehs!

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Honestly, that should be illegal. Unless your company is at risk of bankruptcy/liquidation it shouldn't be allowed to move operations overseas to pay some third world national $2 per day for the benefit of stockholders.

this doesn't even make any sense

 

[Jhoon]

thats not whats being discussed...but we have to be realistic.

More and more companies have less incentive to stay put. They can pick up their operations and move anywhere in the world. You HAVE to consider that.

They can go to any 3rd world country and clean up. But if they want to do business here they’re going to have to play by a set up well defined rules.