Embiid is the MVP, followed by Giannis. Jokic can't be a 6th seed winning MVP

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Giannis clearly imo. Both ends of the court belonged to that dude this season.

If you don't give the award to Kobe in 2005-2006 then I don't think you can give it to Jokic when you have Giannis doing just as crazy shyt on both sides and having a top record.

Voter fatigue or not, Giannis is MVP.
You say that Giannis has a top record, but you do realise that Jokic has a similar record too? You do realise that Giannis has had Jrue and Khris as his help this season, whereas Jokic has been without his #2 and #3 options all season?

I don’t know how Giannis could “clearly” be above him given that fact. That’s not to say Giannis isn’t deserving in his own right, but far from the player who’s left everyone else behind. I feel like folks are scrambling to find reasons not to give Jokic the award, rather than weighing everything up equally.
 

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the problem with using a wins argument against jokic even with the minimal difference in team records is hes been on the floor for more wins than either embiid or giannis to this point. jokic 45 wins, embiid 44 wins, giannis 43 wins.
Of course that trash ass Jordan spam account ignored this post :dead:
 

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Not that this even remotely makes sense, but if you're applying this standard due to the faster pace, then why don't you do the same with MJ?

2021-22 average pace - 98

1984-85 average pace - 102
1986-87 average pace - 101
1987-88 average pace - 99
1988-89 average pace - 100
1989-90 average pace - 98
1990-91 average pace - 98
1991-92 average pace - 96
1992-93 average pace - 97.

MJ's box score stats came during a time with an even higher pace nearly every single season over that period in comparison to this season.
They won’t address this

Especially that fakkit OP NobodyTouchesJordan :mjlol:
 

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His raw stats are not better than Embiid's or Giannis'. He's very good but there's literally no reason why he should be the overwhelming favorite for MVP. Again, he's the 6th seed in the weaker conference .

Only 1 player in the last 40 years has won MVP being stuck out in 6th seed and most people look back on giving that guy the award with regret.
Yes they are dummy why arent they because his scoring volume is slightly lower :mjlol:

He putting up Shaq numbers just with 8 assists and three point shooting :mjlol:
 
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