Eminem's Marshall Mathers LP turns 16 this weekend

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@Stack Money I can't see the full message but In my mentions talking about Eminem doesn't get love from legends?

Let's have a ban bet on that. If I can produce multiple receipts of legends giving Eminem respect then you gotta stop posting. I bet you won't take this bet :ufdup: All talk.
:umad:I knew you'd tag me whinin about that neg since you can't neg back, look at you throwin on the cape for that cac I said he don't get respect in hip hop some legends front in interviews knowin damn well they don't be bumpin his wack music and errbody know heads don't fukk wit him. Challenges of ban bets = feelins caught you spinnin what I said anyway tryna flex YOU won't take a bet on what I actually said cause you know its true:ufdup: cryin about I gotta stop postin cause I insulted your cac idol FOH cac.:pacspit:
 
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Criminal Minded is eternal. :wow:
A few years back I couldn't find my Criminal Minded CD and had a mini panic attack :mjlol:
I mean I had the vinyl and the mp3s, but not having the CD just didn't sit well with me :mjcry:

Criminal Minded is obviously immortalised. But you can't say it sounds good today. It doesn't, and certainly not better than MMLP sonically.

So people using that argument to shyt on MMLP aren't really going anywhere because I can find more dated albums. I think the main critique is the nature of Em's music and how it is relatable (or not) especially to the originators of hip-hop culture. But again, you can't deny its quality as an album. It isn't a coliclassic, but still a classic lol.
 

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:umad:I knew you'd tag me whinin about that neg since you can't neg back, look at you throwin on the cape for that cac I said he don't get respect in hip hop some legends front in interviews knowin damn well they don't be bumpin his wack music and errbody know heads don't fukk wit him. YOU won't even take that bet cause you know I didn't say what you tryna bet on you just flexin, cryin about I gotta stop postin cause I insulted your cac idol FOH cac.:pacspit:

So you're saying that even if legends do showing him love they are lying because you don't like Eminem so they must not like Eminem?

Look at you, incoherent mess :laugh: I don't even like Eminem like that but he is respected as a rapper by a lot of his peers.

Are you taking the bet or not?
 

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Criminal Minded is obviously immortalised. But you can't say it sounds good today. It doesn't, and certainly not better than MMLP sonically.

So people using that argument to shyt on MMLP aren't really going anywhere because I can find more dated albums. I think the main critique is the nature of Em's music and how it is relatable (or not) especially to the originators of hip-hop culture. But again, you can't deny its quality as an album. It isn't a coliclassic, but still a classic lol.
You need to make a thread about what the terms "dated" or "didn't age well" mean. It's like classic where everybody uses it and uses it to fit whatever they want it to mean at the time.

Criminal Minded still sounds amazing to me today. MMLP I haven't listened to in probably 15 years. I've been meaning to revisit it. It's sitting on the computer, I gotta burn it on a CD for the car.

If dated just means, doesn't sound like the current mainstream hip hip sound, then they are both dated. So is every album from the 80s-90s. But that can t be what it means, it's supposed to be a negative thing. MMLP is dated. Supreme Clientele is not.
 

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So you're saying that even if legends do showing him love they are lying because you don't like Eminem so they must not like Eminem?

Look at you, incoherent mess :laugh: I don't even like Eminem like that but he is respected as a rapper by a lot of his peers.

Are you taking the bet or not?
They sayin it to kiss mainstream ass look cool and welcomin to cacs and get his cac fans to like them, I know you don't really think Rakim is sittin around bumpin Marshall Mathers LP.:mjlol:

You from the UK and on Em's dikk hard its obvious you a stan gettin so emotional you issuin ban bets out the blue:mmmhmmiseeyou:like I said challenges of ban bets = feelins caught.:mspaintcamumad:

:stopitslime:You the one thats an incoherent mess scramblin to slurp your rap god you tryna bet me on somethin I didn't say knowin you'd lose if you bet on what I actually did say.:camby:
 

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You need to make a thread about what the terms "dated" or "didn't age well" mean. It's like classic where everybody uses it and uses it to fit whatever they want it to mean at the time.

Criminal Minded still sounds amazing to me today. MMLP I haven't listened to in probably 15 years. I've been meaning to revisit it. It's sitting on the computer, I gotta burn it on a CD for the car.

If dated just means, doesn't sound like the current mainstream hip hip sound, then they are both dated. So is every album from the 80s-90s. But that can t be what it means, it's supposed to be a negative thing. MMLP is dated. Supreme Clientele is not.

I'll get on it start of June haha

but I said sonically dated. I mean what else could it be? Conceptually? That doesn't matter really and Em's is not conceptually dated more so than conceptually cac
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but sonically you can argue 2001 by Dre aged really well or Doggystyle to a certain extent or Jay's The Blueprint or All Eyez on Me and so on. So I never bought in to the dated argument because like you said, it's natural that over time most albums will become sonically dated.

what criticisms could you make against MMLP not being a classic though? people ITT saying 'no' because either it is dated or because of the nature of its content. I'm arguing that you cannot use 'dated' as an argument, unless you mean it isn't relevant anymore but that's not really true in comparison to other albums which are still heralded as classics.
 

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They sayin it to kiss mainstream ass look cool and welcomin to cacs and get his cac fans to like them, I know you don't really think Rakim is sittin around bumpin Marshall Mathers LP.:mjlol:

You from the UK and on Em's dikk hard its obvious you a stan gettin so emotional you issuin ban bets out the blue:mmmhmmiseeyou:like I said challenges of ban bets = feelins caught.:mspaintcamumad:

:stopitslime:You the one thats an incoherent mess scramblin to slurp your rap god you tryna bet me on somethin I didn't say knowin you'd lose if you bet on what I actually did say.:camby:
Remember this breh :mjlol:

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They sayin it to kiss mainstream ass look cool and welcomin to cacs and get his cac fans to like them, I know you don't really think Rakim is sittin around bumpin Marshall Mathers LP.:mjlol:

You from the UK and on Em's dikk hard its obvious you a stan gettin so emotional you issuin ban bets out the blue:mmmhmmiseeyou:like I said challenges of ban bets = feelins caught.:mspaintcamumad:

:stopitslime:You the one thats an incoherent mess scramblin to slurp your rap god you tryna bet me on somethin I didn't say knowin you'd lose if you bet on what I actually did say.:camby:


Trash poster. Basically saying if anybody shows somebody respect who he doesn't like they must be lying. What kind of 12 year old logic
Jay Z just let Em on Renegade because he wanted to please the masses. He really thought Em was trash. Nas was lying when he said he thought Em murdered Jay on that too :pachaha:

Where has me slurping Ems dikk even come from when I said MMLP is his only hard album? :dead: I can't address this clown anymore. Attention seeker. You're dismissed fam.
 

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They sayin it to kiss mainstream ass look cool and welcomin to cacs and get his cac fans to like them, I know you don't really think Rakim is sittin around bumpin Marshall Mathers LP.:mjlol:

You from the UK and on Em's dikk hard its obvious you a stan gettin so emotional you issuin ban bets out the blue:mmmhmmiseeyou:like I said challenges of ban bets = feelins caught.:mspaintcamumad:

:stopitslime:You the one thats an incoherent mess scramblin to slurp your rap god you tryna bet me on somethin I didn't say knowin you'd lose if you bet on what I actually did say.:camby:

Thats true, they are trying to sound appealing to the masses, I can understand someone like Redman liking Eminem because he was kind of one of em's inspirations. But damn when they are praising eminem oh he's a lyricists lyricist and shyt like that we know damn well they are not listening to his ugly put production music, in fact a lot of those legends from lets say 80s they must be listening to 70s music most of the time. Every person loves listening to music that they grew up with, damn sure they ain't gonna relate to anything em has to say besides listening to the technical part of his rapping.

I wouldnt be surprised if white people dont listen to his music that much either, most of them secretly listen to gangsta rap and all that violence because they never been in the ghetto, there is a reason why gangsta rap got so popular in the 90s. And now you got bunch of corny ass people on youtube making comments like they would love to visit compton, off the strength of that fukking movie :mjlol:
 

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Trash poster. Basically saying if anybody shows somebody respect who he doesn't like they must be lying. What kind of 12 year old logic
Jay Z just let Em on Renegade because he wanted to please the masses. He really thought Em was trash. Nas was lying when he said he thought Em murdered Jay on that too :pachaha:

Where has me slurping Ems dikk even come from when I said MMLP is his only hard album? :dead: I can't address this clown anymore. Attention seeker. You're dismissed fam.
No if hip hop legends say "Em dope, the white boy got skillz blah blah blah" when everythin they listen to consists of KRS Nas G Rap etc they ain't actually listenin to garbage like "My Name is/Without Me".

:comeon:Jay put Em on Renegade cause Em was popular and he knew it would move units, Nas was dissin Jay dumbass he ain't gonna say "yo Jigga you held your own".:snoop:

You slurpin Em right now by knowin off hand all the rappers that said somethin positive about Em and goin hard tryna convince me that means everyday heads like him, the fact you say MMLP is a hard album period much less his best proves you the trash poster and don't know shyt about hip hop.

You threw this hissy fit at me over a neg and cause I insulted Em yet got the audacity to call me an attention seeker, you dismissed cac.:camby:
 
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