Erick Sermon Gives SHOCKING Reason He Didn’t Produce On Nas Illmatic • DoggieDiamonds

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    erick was feeling himself back then and rightfully so. :mjlol:
     
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    I don’t think Erick’s tracks would’ve vibed with the Illmatic sound.
     
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    I could hear nas rapping over 'just like music'
     
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    You know what, now that I think about it, I could see Nas on Keith’s “Herb is Pumping”.
     
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    :patrice:
     
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    Bassline would have been right there on a similar vibe to 'Halftime' too :ehh:

    What about Nas on 'A Miilion And One Buddah Spots' or 'Cosmic Slop' off 'Dare Iz A Darkside', though? :lupe:

    Or 'Can't Wait' :banderas:
     
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    Eric Sermon: '91 nas was too street

    Some rap fans/media: nas changed his style n went street on It Was Written and started kicking that gangsta mafioso shyt. He wasn't built like that

    Somebody lying n it ain't eric
     
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    sounded like he said they did record something but the studio burned down
     
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    nobody said he went street.. It Was Written was looked at as commercial
     
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    I think what he meant by street was that whole mobb/cnn/wu sound that was going up.
     
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    Rep given
     
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    Dude I lived through it in real time. You talking to a cat that was a source n vibe subscriber. Later on xxl n blaze. Things that are said about your favorite rap artist is not something easily forgotten. Of course some of these things moved on to being said by rap fans on message boards.
    Talmbout 'nobody.' oh okay, I must be wrong then.

    Trackmasters being involved n the presumed "polished" sound was PART of the criticism
     
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    illmatic solidified a sonic and technical aptitude change in rap from erick sermon and the squad. who were the premier styles war group in this time period. Especially, in 1991. During the time period sermon cites here.
    With the best all time styles war solo emcee in red.
    predated by the most profound styles war group in das efx.
    then predated by the original best emcee and originator of the posse cut skillshowcase. That would now be titled and evolve into being called the feature. In the rapper who predated red and efx in the rapper k solo.
    solo who created singlehandily the posse cut feature model.
    to even get on.
    that allowed the idea for nas to get on and be the herald of the techical emcee revolution. to usher in the sonic landscape change on live at the bbq.

    I have not gotten to the wu tang story just yet.
    as i stopped the tape to rant on just the thread topic.

    yet this does not seem farfetched..
    yet it does show the coming cultural sonic landscape and technical skill revolution.

    that red excelled at.
    yet mostly any and every styles war based emcee did not transistion well fast enough. Or had to many errors from vocal tonality, pocketing, and just not being able to grasp and showcase actual technical aptitude to transistion.

    Erick sermon included especially in this.
    as culturally he was damaged beyond repair culturally in this change.
    plus never transistioned wel enough in skill.
    to grasp what he terms as street content based rap, then.
    when he could have actually fit well into that era. Yet no one knew that wu tang protect ya neck twelve in the last quarter of 91. Would also administer a lane for legacy styles war acts to transition and Wu tang's desperately needed to ramp members in rae and ghost seized that opportunity.
    just as through chance the month of the man. Gave red a commercial marketed turned social misfire. Into red transitioning and dominating in skill the entirety of the east coast major label artists outside of past legacy or sonic change top emcee holdovers like rakim, or finesse.
    going into the sonic landscape and technical revolution in to the sales spike era. In which Erick had a resurgence or renaissance as a producer via defjam. BeinG acquired by universal and now part of and moving in and out technical revolution to the commercial degradation and erosion of quality rap.
    to the jiggy era to the sales spike era.

    so what sermon says here makes sense.


    art barr



    *slept on the same floors as k solo.
     
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    as a matter of fact.
    sermon mentions hittin switches.
    where that record arguably is the record that would close out the quality touch sermon had in spades and in succesivr row as a debut artist producer.

    As the sonic landscape change can kinda point to hittin switches the twelve Inch and sdtrk video promo as being the last good record in the styles war era.
    plus the signal of the styles war era was officially closed out on.
    in The transistion failure and quality wise lyrically of sermon's first solo album. After the quality of hittin switches.


    art barr


    * last styles war twelve I bought of quality was hittin switches too.
    *bangs hitting switches
     
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