ESPN Ranks Lebron as the best #1 pick ever. Do you agree?

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you can't compare financials of the nba from the 70s to now :mjlol:

Lew had an aging big O then he left, and mgmt never got the neccessary talent for Lew to succeed while he was the best player in the league. He had to contend with the lakers in the west with wilt and other great teams.

Not to mention Lew played 6 season in milwaukee and won 5 mvps and went to 2 finals.


I hear what you're saying, but :manny:



You live here in Ohio, Columbus to be exact. You know what LeBron brings to the table for the state, and he means even MORE up here in NE Ohio, so Im not going back and forth over that breh:yeshrug:
 

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are you being serious? Dream in his second season beat the defending champion lakers and took 2 games from a top 3 team all time in the 86 celtics. He was railroaded by cokehead teammates and injuries.
MJ was taken after Hakeem :dahell:
 

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HAHAHA





:patrice:PLEASE ELABORATE.


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LeBron has shined a brighter light on the Cleveland Cavaliers, and the City of Cleveland, than ANY NBA player selected #1 overall has done.


On the court, he already has given them 4 NBA Finals appearances in a Cavaliers jersey, but the sheer amount of exposure and $$$ he brings into the city puts him over the moon when it comes to comparing him to other #1 picks.


Cleveland is known around the world, and mainly because of LeBron James:wow:


No other #1 pick has, basically, single handedly revived a City on it's last legs as LeBron has done.


We could've been Detroit:hhh:
 

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MJ was taken after Hakeem :dahell:
?? huh? i thought we were discussing dream and lebron? What does MJ have to do with that? I'm lost B

@Newzz i'm not denying what lebron has meant to ohio as a whole, but he's from here. Imagine if Lew was drafted by the knicks in 70 and played alongside walt frazier and they moved willis reed to PF, along with dave debusschre, phil jackson and the crew. :sas:
 

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LeBron has shined a brighter light on the Cleveland Cavaliers, and the City of Cleveland, than ANY NBA player selected #1 overall has done.


On the court, he already has given them 4 NBA Finals appearances in a Cavaliers jersey, but the sheer amount of exposure and $$$ he brings into the city puts him over the moon when it comes to comparing him to other #1 picks.


Cleveland is known around the world, and mainly because of LeBron James:wow:


No other #1 pick has, basically, single handedly revived a City on it's last legs as LeBron has done.


We could've been Detroit:hhh:


I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST ABOUT BASKETBALL.

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?? huh? i thought we were discussing dream and lebron? What does MJ have to do with that? I'm lost B

@Newzz i'm not denying what lebron has meant to ohio as a whole, but he's from here. Imagine if Lew was drafted by the knicks in 70 and played alongside walt frazier and they moved willis reed to PF, along with dave debusschre, phil jackson and the crew. :sas:
How is Dream the GOAT #1 pick when he wasn't even the best player in his draft
 

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@Newzz i'm not denying what lebron has meant to ohio as a whole, but he's from here. Imagine if Lew was drafted by the knicks in 70 and played alongside walt frazier and they moved willis reed to PF, along with dave debusschre, phil jackson and the crew. :sas:

Which is why it's clear to me that LeBron is the answer:manny:



Who's the best #1 pick ever....it's Cleveland's selection of LeBron James:yeshrug:



The Cavs could've went the safe route and picked Carmelo Anthony (who was coming off a dominant Freshman season of CBB) or Darko (who was getting serious hype back then). Instead, they went with the hometown kid and have experienced the most benefits of any team that has picked someone #1 imo.



Have you even been Downtown lately breh?:banderas:



They still building and adding more & more thanks to King James running up the numbers in the city:wow:
 

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I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST ABOUT BASKETBALL.

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LeBron's being picked by Cleveland is much bigger than basketball.....he literally is responsible for changing the perception/finances in the city. That has to count for something:lupe:




For instance, a 2010 study by The Plain Dealer and economists showed James played a "key role" in $200 million in downtown spending annually, including $150 million during the playoffs.


LeConomics: Is the economic impact of LeBron James' return to Cleveland more than a feeling?


That was from a 2010 study.....the Cavs have much more of a strangle hold on the Eastern Conference since he returned, so the numbers would be even higher today. That's a helluva notch on the belt of a #1 pick:wow:
 

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More then Tim Duncan who never left and got five rings with his team and never had a season below 50 wins?

Yes.


Again, look at what picking & having LeBron is doing for them:



Goodyear logo worth more than $10 million for Cavaliers

Cavaliers, Goodyear spot
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By Joe Vardon, Cleveland.com The Plain Dealer
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on May 15, 2017 at 3:29 PM, updated May 15, 2017 at 4:28 PM





CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Cavaliers will receive more than $10 million annually through a new partnership in which Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company will place its Wingfoot logo on new, Nike-designed team jerseys for the next three seasons.

The arrangement between the Cavs, Goodyear, and Turner Sports may be among the most lucrative in the NBA, according to sources with knowledge of the deal that was announced in a joint press conference Monday at Quicken Loans Arena.


The Cavs' payroll of roughly $130 million is the highest in the NBA and the franchise lost $40 million during its championship season in 2016, according to Forbes.

As part of the agreement, Turner, which includes TNT, the cable network that will carry the Cavaliers' playoff games in the Eastern Conference finals, will air free commercials featuring the Cavs and Goodyear and promote the partnership on various traditional and digital mediums.

Goodyear gets the highly coveted, and expensive, real estate on the Cavs' jerseys on the left shoulder/breast, opposite the Nike swoosh, beginning in the 2017-18 season. The team will sell jerseys and merchandise with the Wingfoot.




And the Cavs and Goodyear will donate $1 million to support STEM programs in Cleveland and Akron public schools.

The Wingfoot logo will be unveiled when Nike rolls out its new Cavs uniforms this summer. A source said the team's color scheme of wine, gold, and blue will not change as part of the design.

"The wingfoot (is) going to be opposite the swoosh, and they really do look beautiful together," Cavs general manager David Griffin said.

In April of 2016, the NBA announced a three-year pilot program in which teams could sell space on their jerseys to one advertiser beginning with the 2017-18 season.

Goodyear, which was founded in Akron in 1898, shares a birthplace with someone who is not only the most famous player on the Cavs, but one of the most recognizable athletes on the planet in LeBron James.

The Wingfoot is well known globally too, as it drapes the sides of the iconic Goodyear blimp.

Len Komoroski, chief executive officer for the Cavs, said a Cavs-Goodyear partnership was an example used by the NBA when jersey sponsorship permission was first granted, preceding any actual negotiations between the two organizations.

And Griffin said as Nike began meeting with the Cavs for the new uniform design, it was already drawing inspiration from Goodyear.

"Nike designers, from the beginning, when they were looking for their inspiration, they were looking at what is Cleveland, what is northeast Ohio," Griffin said. "Who is Akron? Who is Canton? And they wanted to know what their marketplace really was. And so they looked for inspiration in the organizations and the companies that built this great city.

"The very first one they looked at was Goodyear. That was really meaningful to us, because in the deck they showed us, Goodyear was in it," Griffin said. "They had no idea what we were doing. They had no idea we were talking to Goodyear."

In a news release, James said "every Akron kid grew up seeing the Wingfoot in the sky on the blimp and feeling pride in our community," and there "is something special for me personally about having that logo on the Cavs uniform." The tire company has also supported James' charitable foundation.

Cavs coach Tyronn Lue called the partnership "a great thing."

"Akron-based company who I've always seen, even growing up being a Cardinals fan and watching baseball and football, you always see Goodyear," Lue said. "They're always affiliated with all sports."

The Cavs and Goodyear went to some length Monday to play up the Wingfoot's history in professional basketball. The Akron Goodyear Wingfoots played in the National Basketball League, a precursor to the NBA, and won the league's first championship in 1937.

"Why would Goodyear do this?" Richard Kramer, Goodyear president, chairman, and CEO, asked rhetorically. "And outside of the opportunity to be a partner with a world-class organization like the Cleveland Cavaliers, in one word the answer to the question is 'connection.' Connection between Goodyear and basketball, the connection between Goodyear and the Cavs, and the connection between Goodyear and our community here in northeast Ohio."

Griffin also said the new Goodyear partnership was "deeply meaningful" to him on a personal level. His mother was born in Akron and his grandfather worked for Goodyear Aerospace for 30 years.

"The ashtray on our table was a Wingfoot," he said. "In my family, if you were truly successful you were blimp worthy."



Goodyear logo worth more than $10 million for Cavaliers



Like I said brehs.....picking LeBron #1 was a great move for the Cavs not just ON the court but OFF as well.

He's a $$$ magnet, companies are willing to throw their money at anything with LeBron's name attached to it which is why the Q is remodeling (again) and Downtown Cleveland is still adding more and more upscale attractions/bars/clubs/restaurants/hotels.





King James was the best #1 selection in NBA history:yeshrug:
 

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Why is dudes in here arguing about financials and all that shyt just to try to spin it in Lebron's favor. @FTBS has the best answer. If it's strictly for the franchise that drafted them it's clearly Duncan then Magic (only giving nod to Duncan for longevity) then probably Hakeem. If it's for overall career regardless of team then I got Kareem, Duncan then Lebron. Again longevity plays a factor and both of them won more titles over while Kareem has more MVPs as well while Duncan's 20 straight years of 50+ wins while also helping transition Spurs to be successful after his career over puts him over Lebron overall.
 

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Why is dudes in here arguing about financials and all that shyt just to try to spin it in Lebron's favor. @FTBS has the best answer. If it's strictly for the franchise that drafted them it's clearly Duncan then Magic (only giving nod to Duncan for longevity) then probably Hakeem. If it's for overall career regardless of team then I got Kareem, Duncan then Lebron. Again longevity plays a factor and both of them won more titles over while Kareem has more MVPs as well while Duncan's 20 straight years of 50+ wins while also helping transition Spurs to be successful after his career over puts him over Lebron overall.

Why would I need to spin it in LeBron's favor when Im not a LeBron fan?:dwillhuh:
 

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Why is dudes in here arguing about financials and all that shyt just to try to spin it in Lebron's favor. @FTBS has the best answer. If it's strictly for the franchise that drafted them it's clearly Duncan then Magic (only giving nod to Duncan for longevity) then probably Hakeem. If it's for overall career regardless of team then I got Kareem, Duncan then Lebron. Again longevity plays a factor and both of them won more titles over while Kareem has more MVPs as well while Duncan's 20 straight years of 50+ wins while also helping transition Spurs to be successful after his career over puts him over Lebron overall.

Talking about goodyear:mjlol: These olé this album lukewarm but it sold ass nikkas:stopitslime:

Cleveland got a baseball a very well known franchise in the Browns. San Antonio has the Spurs that's it..These dudes man:mjlol:
 
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