ESPN Reports Deflategate was about Goodell getting the Patriots back for Spygate

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There's a difference between someone telling you what they're going to do, versus you sneaking into their locker room and stealing their game plan.

The information is exactly the same, though. The way they got it was shady, but if the team verbally tells you the play vs. stealing it, you still had the same information and you still have to stop the play. That's all I'm saying.

You guys are acting like I'm saying it's OK to steal shyt from the locker room. I was never arguing that, or saying it wasn't wrong.

All I'm saying is the Patriots didn't win 4 Superbowl because they had more video and notebooks, they won that many games every year because they were a great team.

Advanced scouting doesn't win championships without a great team executing that knowledge.
 
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@Regular_P why the neg telling me to stop? This is a civil conversation and nobody is catching feelings. If 8 people gonna quote me, why can't I respond 3-4 times?

If you disagree with me, cool, but chill.
 

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@Regular_P why the neg telling me to stop? This is a civil conversation and nobody is catching feelings. If 8 people gonna quote me, why can't I respond 3-4 times?

If you disagree with me, cool, but chill.
It was a reminder that you're embarrassing yourself. Please, continue if you feel compelled to do so. :smhkobe:
 

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The point still stands and makes perfect sense. Whether you know the play or not, in any sport, you still have to stop it.

That's a fact whether you hate the Patriots or not lol.

And it's a hell of lot easier to stop something that you know is coming vs. having to identify it as it's happening, react to it, then stop it.

I mean, come on.
 

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The information is exactly the same, though. The way they got it was shady, but if the team verbally tells you the play vs. stealing it, you still had the same information and you still have to stop the play. That's all I'm saying.

You guys are acting like I'm saying it's OK to steal shyt from the locker room. I was never arguing that, or saying it wasn't wrong.

All I'm saying is the Patriots didn't win 4 Superbowl because they had more video and notebooks, they won that many games every year because they were a great team.

Advanced scouting doesn't win championships without a great team executing that knowledge.

:what: this nikka man

You give Manning brees and rodgers the play the defense is bout to run and they would never lose a game. Tom bradys career is one big accident his defenses knew what the other team was gonna run and he knew what defense the opponent was in. He was a 6th round pick for a reason. The patriots are frauds and closing yours eyes ain't gonna remove those astericks.
 

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:what: this nikka man

You give Manning brees and rodgers the play the defense is bout to run and they would never lose a game. Tom bradys career is one big accident his defenses knew what the other team was gonna run and he knew what defense the opponent was in. He was a 6th round pick for a reason. The patriots are frauds and closing yours eyes ain't gonna remove those astericks.
I can't even imagine posting this dense from Kobe stans after donaghy or if the forum existed during the 2002 WCF.
 
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And it's a hell of lot easier to stop something that you know is coming vs. having to identify it as it's happening, react to it, then stop it.

I mean, come on.

You're all acting like I'm arguing that point though.

My only argument in this entire thread is "extra video and extra diagrams aren't the reason this same team won 4 rings spread out over 14 years of time. All that information they acquired wouldn't have lead them to a championship, let alone 4, without an elite team executing that knowledge."

Pretty objective comment and I've been more than civil the whole time. You all just coming down harder on me because I'm s Patriots fan. It's cool tho.

Funny thing is I'm not even a big football fan, I'm a basketball guy. Knowledge doesn't win championships in any sport without elite talent behind it.
 
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