ESPN writer Jemele Hill says she's afraid of being in an elevator alone with a man

[Prynce]

Are you serious right now? We gonna talk about how many black men censor their own behavior when in public, and/or refrain from doing certain things because of how society reacts to and treats black men? You'd think that experiencing those things would result in some fukking empathy for what women go through. But no...

No, it makes me think that a black woman should understand the stereotypes she reinforces with painting men as monsters ...

Black men have been the face of rape for 200 years in this country ...

The same country where Emmett till died for just supposedly whistling at a woman

I'm against anything that reinforces the idea that some random man wants to hurt some random woman

I already have to walk egg shells just being a black man. Why do I have to do it because some woman feels unsafe? I feel unsafe everyday but nobody goes out there way to make us feel safe. Smh

 

[Easy-E]

I listened to damn near every episode of His & Hers

I never saw this feminist-man-eater-black-are-trash side of her.

I legit think this is a case of selling out.

From her refusing to stop talking about Trump (fukk him, but, tweeting about him isn't worth your job), lying about black men support Brett Kavangh after retweeting that "Black Men Are.." article...it's like she's a walking #TheRootArticles.

I "cancelled" her a long time ago.

 

[jwonder]

This is the problem in Amerikkka right now. You have too many bytches thinking they are finer than what they are due to simps on social media. Jemele is shaped like a toad and looks like Mike Singletary in the face. It's always these ugly ho's that talk this shyt. First it was the KRS 1 looking bytch from Metoo and now Jemele. Aint nobody checking for ya'll like that.

If anybody pays attention to this ho babble they need to get their ass kicked. Seriously fukk these dumb bytches and do you. First it was street harrassment then male toxic and now what? Elevator harassment phobia?


Stop paying these hoes no mind. You can always tell the ones that have that look that "please don't talk to me" like every guy wants their funky ass. Just ignore them. They typically feel dumb because they thought you were going to engage in their self validation, but you went about your business.

 

[Gold]

No, it makes me think that a black woman should understand the stereotypes she reinforces with painting men as monsters ...

Black men have been the face of rape for 200 years in this country ...

The same country where Emmett till died for just supposedly whistling at a woman

I'm against anything that reinforces the idea that some random man wants to hurt some random woman

I already have to walk egg shells just being a black man. Why do I have to do it because some woman feels unsafe? I feel unsafe everyday but nobody goes out there way to make us feel safe. Smh

My man preaching.

However that will never ever change. Our struggle is ours alone. People always quick to tell us to share our feelings, but when we do its not like anyone wants to do shyt about them so whats the point.

I know as a 6'5 250lb black man i am a scary sight for most non-black people. I would love to live in a world where im not constantly adjusting my behavior to ensure that the cops arent called on me. And guess what, ive STILL had the cops called on me multiple times for basically nothing.

Our safety is not this society's concern breh. We gotta fend for ourselves and thats just the way it is

 

[Tug life]

The responses to this are somewhat baffling but then again this is a staple of the forum lately. Women are harassed by men multiple times a day, every day. They are followed, insulted, touched, cat called, etc etc every fukking day. You don't see why a woman would be afraid of being in a closed space with a dude she isn't familiar with?


This has nothing to do with feminism. This has everything to do with women feeling uncomfortable and unsafe, and behavior that some people on this very forum argue isn't wrong or harmful. It's easy for you to sit on your computers and act incredulous about this because...the more and more you post, the more obvious it becomes you don't talk to women in real life. You don't have friends who are women. You try to argue this is just online feminism run amok, extremist hateful women who hate men. In reality this is everyday women.

This is exactly how I feel. nikkas gotta understand that we know our intentions and what we will or won't do, but to someone who doesn't know you, you're just a stranger. I could understand why women feel this way, there are women getting sexually assaulted everyday. So you gotta be cautious, same way im cautious around cops. If im walking behind a woman at night and its an empty block, I almost always cross the street or walk slower it'll be different if I was some square ass Carlton looking nikka though

 

[poundedyam]

I dont let no one inconvinience me.
I will walk out the lift when and where I want.
That being said i can sympathize with womens fear of men.
Given the fact that we have some utter scumbags in this world.

 

[Ricky Fontaine]

This is exactly how I feel. nikkas gotta understand that we know our intentions and what we will or won't do, but to someone who doesn't know you, you're just a stranger. I could understand why women feel this way, there are women getting sexually assaulted everyday. So you gotta be cautious, same way im cautious around cops. If im walking behind a woman at night and its an empty block, I almost always cross the street or walk slower it'll be different if I was some square ass Carlton looking nikka though

Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer were square looking dudes.

You viewing yourself through a prejudiced lens and stereotyping yourself without even realizing it smh

 

[the cac mamba]

the fukk is gonna HAPPEN in an elevator?

 

[Tug life]

Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer were square looking dudes.

You viewing yourself through a prejudiced lens and stereotyping yourself without even realizing it smh

 

[AAKing23]

The responses to this are somewhat baffling but then again this is a staple of the forum lately. Women are harassed by men multiple times a day, every day. They are followed, insulted, touched, cat called, etc etc every fukking day. You don't see why a woman would be afraid of being in a closed space with a dude she isn't familiar with?


This has nothing to do with feminism. This has everything to do with women feeling uncomfortable and unsafe, and behavior that some people on this very forum argue isn't wrong or harmful. It's easy for you to sit on your computers and act incredulous about this because...the more and more you post, the more obvious it becomes you don't talk to women in real life. You don't have friends who are women. You try to argue this is just online feminism run amok, extremist hateful women who hate men. In reality this is everyday women.

You preaching to the wrong choir then, we don't talk to women remember so how could we be harassing them

 

[jwonder]

This is exactly how I feel. nikkas gotta understand that we know our intentions and what we will or won't do, but to someone who doesn't know you, you're just a stranger. I could understand why women feel this way, there are women getting sexually assaulted everyday. So you gotta be cautious, same way im cautious around cops. If im walking behind a woman at night and its an empty block, I almost always cross the street or walk slower it'll be different if I was some square ass Carlton looking nikka though

The responses to this are somewhat baffling but then again this is a staple of the forum lately. Women are harassed by men multiple times a day, every day. They are followed, insulted, touched, cat called, etc etc every fukking day. You don't see why a woman would be afraid of being in a closed space with a dude she isn't familiar with?


This has nothing to do with feminism. This has everything to do with women feeling uncomfortable and unsafe, and behavior that some people on this very forum argue isn't wrong or harmful. It's easy for you to sit on your computers and act incredulous about this because...the more and more you post, the more obvious it becomes you don't talk to women in real life. You don't have friends who are women. You try to argue this is just online feminism run amok, extremist hateful women who hate men. In reality this is everyday women.

Both ya'll nikkas are lame. I'm not doing none of that shyt. I'm getting where I need to go. Most women when they see you aint trying to talk or even look at their funky ass they are back at ease. So many smart dumb muthafukkas in here. If you go about your business and don't have the look. Them hoes aint stressin.

 

[Killer Instinct]

Don't care. This has no more merit than white people claiming to fear the threat theft around black men in the supermarket parking lot. Or asians following black women around the beauty shop because they suspect they're all thieves. As a man, I'm not responsible for your hysterics and mental dysfunction. Random women aren't the center of my world. I have two at home and another on the way that already have my undivided attention. If you're scared, get a dog. Otherwise, because if we're in the elevator, rest assured that I've got more pressing business than concerning myself about you.

 

[Verbal Kint]

Women are raped and abused every single day in the majority of the world

If you want to be a better person help those women who had real shyt happen to them. They actually need it and you can actually do something meaningful in their life.

But acting as if some ditsy broad who complains that being in a elevator with a man is uncomfortable is brave or a victim aint it breh

You nikkas so fake with that shyt

You're making things up. It ain't that hard to purposefully get off an elevator first, now that I know it's a 'thing' for some women. That's all this is. The fact that you think it's some huge lifestyle change says more about you than anything. But like I said, you do you. If I was living for the approval of random Coli nikkas I'd probably talk down on this too :cottonhomie:

 

[Json]

Go ask a woman what she experiences on a daily basis then. I have female coworkers and friends and ex-girlfriends and family members who have told me wild stories that not only disgusted me, but make me very conscious of my own behavior and how a woman might perceive it.

The most obvious, and perhaps more prevalent, example would be men who don't take no for an answer. Women who are followed by a man asking them questions ("what's your name/oh so you not gonna smile for me/you got a boyfriend or nah/i want to talk to you/etc"). Go ask a woman if she's been followed or pursued like that before, I'm curious what you'll hear. We have so many posts and threads about women not wanting to talk to decent guys...but have you considered the fact that women are harassed all day/week/month/etc, to the point it's no surprised they'll blow off a decent guy who approaches them - they assume you're another jerk who won't leave them alone.

Women's personal space gets violated constantly. So of course they're gonna feel uncomfortable in a closed space with a random dude. None of this is rocket science. Instead of dismissing it, perhaps people should ask WHY women feel this way and what can be done about it.

Tihis isn't the same as blacks asking not to be harassed because of race. We are asking for equal treatment as everyone else. To be considered for the job because of our merit and not be stereotyped as a thug or be able to wear our hair natural.

What is the endgame of this argument? It's not asking for equal treatment. I open doors for men and women. I let kids and old people off before me cause they're usually slower or with an adult.

I can understand how women can feel violated by groping at a festival or event. I can understand not wanting to be talked to in while minding your own business.

But we are getting into an area of what is politeness. Is it better to let a woman drop her bag of groceries and not help her cause some guy might use it as an excuse to hit on her? Don't open a door cause cause I could be a rapist. The overall message been given in today's argument is basically to just ignore each other cause some dude might be gross.

If that's what this argument is going towards, just say it. Cause this nitpicking hypothetical boogeymen isn't going change minds.

 

[Tug life]

Both ya'll nikkas are lame. I'm not doing none of that shyt. I'm getting where I need to go. Most women when they see you aint trying to talk or even look at their funky ass they are back at ease. So many smart dumb muthafukkas in here. If you go about your business and don't have the look. Them hoes aint stressin.

I'm not here to go back and forth with you nikkas. Aint nothing smart dumb about shyt I said its logic you do whats good for you