ESPN writer Jemele Hill says she's afraid of being in an elevator alone with a man

[Diondon]

Yet women want access to every male space men have created for themselves; sports, clubs, organizations etc

 

[jwonder]

I'm not here to go back and forth with you nikkas. Aint nothing smart dumb about shyt I said its logic you do whats good for you

Logic to appease a stranger so they feel safe? You just might be Carlton with that logic. Let's see I'm going to delay where I need to go to make sure a woman who doesn't even know me feels safe. This is why women act like this. Cuz of you SIMP ASS nikkaS!

 

[reserved_one]

This might sound insensitive but no man ain't trying to creep up on Jemele Hill and get rapey with her. You''ll have to be heavily drunk off some moonshine from fukking Mississippi to even find her attractive.

 

[jwonder]

Don’t care. I’m not a rapist or criminal.

And for the record I don’t speak to strangers. Idc how beautiful a women is.

Exactly. At least in these days. I'm from Miami lived through the Uncle Luke days and women weren't so dumb back then in this sense. Now if I want to talk to women I have such a huge network of people I'm always introduced to a beautiful professional woman that I end up dating. That's the way to go in this era. shyt even if I was younger in this era a bar or club or random place is the last place I want to talk to women with this bullshyt going on.

 

[HiphopRelated]

You're making things up. It ain't that hard to purposefully get off an elevator first, now that I know it's a 'thing' for some women. That's all this is. The fact that you think it's some huge lifestyle change says more about you than anything. But like I said, you do you. If I was living for the approval of random Coli nikkas I'd probably talk down on this too :cottonhomie:

Bro, the elevator can reach and it takes me a couple seconds to even notice, people are in their own head. You're now asking men to be extra focused at some generic point in their day just because

It just happens that apparently her head is he's about to assault me, and my head is did I lock my car?

 

[e001]

bytch ugly as shyt, if she was fine I would understand it.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Tihis isn't the same as blacks asking not to be harassed because of race. We are asking for equal treatment as everyone else. To be considered for the job because of our merit and not be stereotyped as a thug or be able to wear our hair natural.

What is the endgame of this argument? It's not asking for equal treatment. I open doors for men and women. I let kids and old people off before me cause they're usually slower or with an adult.

I can understand how women can feel violated by groping at a festival or event. I can understand not wanting to be talked to in while minding your own business.

But we are getting into an area of what is politeness. Is it better to let a woman drop her bag of groceries and not help her cause some guy might use it as an excuse to hit on her? Don't open a door cause cause I could be a rapist. The overall message been given in today's argument is basically to just ignore each other cause some dude might be gross.

If that's what this argument is going towards, just say it. Cause this nitpicking hypothetical boogeymen isn't going change minds.

At what point in my post did I mention politeness? I'm talking about clear cut harassment. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about following women, trying to talk to them after they've made it clear they aren't interested, making profane or ignorant statements towards them, grabbing them, and other overt actions that not only make women uncomfortable...they influence how women perceive non-threatening/normal/etc behavior from men too.

...like opening doors sure. Most women have no issue with chivalry, opening doors, etc. They say thank you and move on. But at the same time, many women feel uneasy about it because they fear if they react too positively, a man might take it the wrong way and pursue them, or get angry if rejected, etc. We might say "oh she's overthinking it...it's just a simple thing" and yea, I understand how a guy might think that. But I try to think about things from other people's perspectives, as much as I can. And I can see why a woman might ENJOY legit chivalry while simultaneously feeling anxious about the intentions of men who act that way. When I open the door for women it's not really a thought...it's just an instinct that was drilled into me by my mother and grandmothers. A courtesy. I open the door, nod and move on. I don't think "well now she owes me something" or "wow she smiles, she must want to fukk me" lol.

That's all I'm saying. A lot of chicks are not hateful or mean or angry or anything else. They're just scared.

 

[Verbal Kint]

Bro, the elevator can reach and it takes me a couple seconds to even notice, people are in their own head. You're now asking men to be extra focused at some generic point in their day just because

It just happens that apparently her head is he's about to assault me, and my head is did I lock my car?

I feel you and that's why I'm not out here waving some cape like if you don't get off first you're displaying 'toxic masculinity' or whatever nonsense feminists spew. I'm just saying that now that I'm aware of it, if I'm thinking of it, I'll do it. All there is to it. Cause like I said, I've had times where I hoped a woman didn't think I was following her because I know women who have been followed by men, including my wife.

 

[elizjon]

I always make sure I stand with my back to a woman in confined places like elevators. It's a lot of weirdos out here so it's understandable that they're nervous.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

If I get into an elevator with a stranger I'm keeping my distance and minding my business. If that's enough for a woman to be afraid of the 10-15 second non-interaction we're going to have in the elevator...that's her problem. Most of the time I am trying to get to work / home. Don't have time for that shyt.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

No one is harrassing this fugly bytch

As a tall muscular handsome breh, i routinely have women undressing me with their eyes and being inappropriate.

I avoid eye contact and keep it pushing. Not tryna catch a case over here.

Now when I'm in Nigeria, the carribeean, or Mexico, it's all good.

 

[HiphopRelated]

I feel you and that's why I'm not out here waving some cape like if you don't get off first you're displaying 'toxic masculinity' or whatever nonsense feminists spew. I'm just saying that now that I'm aware of it, if I'm thinking of it, I'll do it. All there is to it. Cause like I said, I've had times where I hoped a woman didn't think I was following her because I know women who have been followed by men, including my wife.

I get where you're coming from, but this leads to what Chapelle was talking about with imperfect allies.

It reaches a point where the men that generally support what you're for are like "WTF? I'm out"

Don't wanna be cat called? I'm with ya, sexual harrassment? I'm with ya, but a nikka just going about his day in silence? gotta draw the line somewhere.

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Jemele deserves smoke but she wasn’t the one responsible for this..
Mina Kimes started this...
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[Lucky_Lefty]

Does this insinuate that they believe every man wants to fukk them? I know I saw Mina Kimes tweet and I rolled my eyes to her reply to a guy who asked her that

 

[AAKing23]

Does this insinuate that they believe every man wants to fukk them? I know I saw Mina Kimes tweet and I rolled my eyes to her reply to a guy who asked her that

Yes